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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-21 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2666 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2666 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between the exertion of social pressure, and the coercion of a crippled child by a perpetual abuser who is, implicitly or otherwise, threatening violence and death.

The guards may have been following orders, but they're just as likely to have been willing recruits, because the Westerosi treatment of sex workers (and it's almost inconceivable that they weren't also fed the story that Tysha was a prostitute) is frankly appalling. We'll never know, because they're not actually characters.

Tysha is well within her rights to view everyone involved in her rape in the most negative conceivable light, including Tyrion. That's not in question. His culpability from a god's-eye viewpoint - whether or not he can reasonably be called a rapist by out-of-universe viewers who know the entirety of the situation - is.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
You're right, I was wrong to hold the guards and Tyrion in a remotely similar light. As for whether or not Tyrion can be called a rapist, yeah, that's under question. My position is that it's possible that he can be rapist and not culpable for the crime at the same time, specifically because of Tysha's right to view everyone involved in a negative light regardless of the circumstances. The total lack of perspective from her really grates on me. She's just something that happened to Tyrion long ago, instead of being a whole person.