[ SECRET POST #2666 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2666 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't that point about victims and victimizers usually used in relation to former abuse victims who go on to commit abuse themselves? It doesn't take into account a situation like this, where the crime being committed isn't just as a result of psychological scarring but an active part of the original ongoing abuse. I think that when we talk about victims who are also victimizers, we're not bringing in cases where the victimizing is perpetuated with practically a gun to their head.

[(Anonymous)]

Mostly, although it's also used in relation to current abuse victims who themselves (either out of rage and frustration or because they've normalized their own abuse) victimize a third party not involved in the initial abuse - the abused child who in turn abuses their own siblings being a common example.

Either way, it's not really applicable to the situation under discussion.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah yes, that's also applicable. Still, goes to show you can't just take talking points from one issue and plug them into another.

[darkmanifest]

I've also seen it applied to cases where adults are forced by pain of death or similar threats to participate in rape; there usually isn't a question of whether they're legally or morally culpable if the coercion is plain. It wasn't a proper comparison in Tyrion's case, though, because he was an abused child, like you said, and assaulting Tysha was just another part of his own abuse (a point that I didn't consider).