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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-22 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2667 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-23 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Your job as a teacher is to teach, not to shame people who may not have done the reading on an assignment everyone in the room is guaranteed to forget within the month.

HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA oh wow you don't think you should be shamed for not doing your fucking homework? What do you think the teacher's job is? Fucking customer service?

If you don't know your students' situations then you aren't being effective in your duties.

What, their condition of not doing their fucking homework?

you aren't looking for them to learn.

We are trying to get them to do the fucking reading

you were teaching properly, which should be your goal, then every capable student in the room would be able to answer your question to begin with,

I see. You want to be spoonfed. You are an idiot.

People are different and have different methods of learning that work best for them.

Most effective methods involve doing the reading

The education system has failed a lot of students

Oh honey. It never failed you. You weren't participating.

Learn to teach or leave the classroom.

Learn to do your fucking homework or flunk out. I hope you don't waste too much of your parents' money doing so.
Edited 2014-04-23 00:52 (UTC)
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-23 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, the punishment for not doing your homework is a bad grade, not public humiliation.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-23 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
If not being able to answer a question actually humiliates you (it happens to everyone, including A students) you should probably stick to online courses.

Here's the thing: a lot of people don't raise their hands but do know the answer. They are lazy.
Edited 2014-04-23 01:36 (UTC)
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-23 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
except you were talking about purposefully shaming students, not merely calling on them and them saying "I don't know". those are two really really different things.

A lot of people who know the answer and don't raise their hands are trying to not be know-it-alls though I'm sure that's not everyone.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I know we've settled my teaching status already but I want to reiterate that there are indeed problems in the education system that leave a lot of students (mostly those with less conventional learning styles) with less support than they need. This is the fault of their teachers in my opinion. A student can only do so much to teach themselves; some are better off than others in this way, but as a teacher I do my personal best to ensure that all my students are genuinely learning because it's important to me.

I've had a number of students with learning disabilities or other particular needs who did not easily absorb reading material, for a variety of reasons. I've had a few students who were dyslexic, one of which did not inform me of this at the start of class out of embarrassment and hope that they could get by in my class without reading the material. Perhaps that was a fault on their end for not informing me earlier but I was able to work it through with them. I've had other students - this is common with freshmen - who simply took on too much without realising far too late and didn't have the time to dedicate to my class. This is a problem that I can only do so much about, but it's clear to me that sometimes students who haven't done assignments are not merely lazy or careless, which is why I'm not in favour of shaming them in class.

Call on students all you like, I'm only saying I don't think the goal there should be to make your students feel bad. If anything the goal should be to test their knowledge. As I said above, if someone is struggling with an answer - no matter what you think the reason is - in my opinion it's better to move on than to grill them in front of the class.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
As I said above, if someone is struggling with an answer - no matter what you think the reason is - in my opinion it's better to move on than to grill them in front of the class.

...or, you help guide them to that answer, which isn't grilling. It's important to find that good middle spot where you're challenging without insulting, and that takes experience.

As for the disability stuff--it stinks, but there's only so much we can do in a hardcore humanities field. If someone literally can't read the material--say, something from the 1860s--I can't really fix that. We're dealing with material that's challenging. Luckily my institution has a good office of disability services; it's very easy to arrange increased time or other accommodations for exams and get notetakers. I'd do my best to do that adhoc if I end up getting a job at a college that doesn't offer this.