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Comments

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

I have friends that, when we were in the same classes, we texted during class. It was about the class material.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

And I'm sure everybody does that.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

Weirdly, it was the culture within my program to do that. So yeah, everyone was doing that. They might've had other convos going on the side but that was more multi-tasking than I was capable of.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

Please tell me you're just playing devil's advocate on that one.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

If it's any consolation, I too was shocked that that was the culture in my program.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

TBH, I still find that annoying. Wait until you're out of class and then have your deep conversations about class material, if you find it that engaging. When you're in class, pay attention.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, I'll jump to defend texting in basically any other situation (that doesn't involve operating heavy machinery) but in class, it's just rude. wait 45 minutes.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

...and of course, everyone should consider the mental comfort of third parties when learning. That's why I stopped using pink highlighters when someone sitting next to me said that pink annoyed him and he'd prefer it if I used blue.

Oh wait.

I didn't.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

That's... not the point? Do whatever you want, I'm just saying I think it's rude to your teacher and to the other students. Texting in class is, to me, distracting in a way that you using a highlighter in a color I don't like is not. Obviously you don't need to change your life or study habits for silly, irrelevant requests from others; that said, yeah, I do think you should take your fellow students into consideration when doing stuff that might well impact their ability to concentrate in class. Highlighter color is also different because it's relevant to your studying-- it's a part of being in class, and might be necessary for you to learn; texting, in my opinion, is not. Period.

But honestly, beyond anything about your fellow students, I just think it's terribly rude to your professor. This is their job and yours; I think you should treat it that way.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

I find it strange that you can't focus on your own concerns. Provided that their devices aren't making noises or clicking when they type, it's really none of your business. And it's not impacting you, since you aren't participating. Sit at the front of the class if you feel the need to be involved in all things within your purview. But that aside...

In my particular situation, literally everyone in the class was doing it. It was literally the program's culture to do it, the professors knew we were all doing it, and the people who didn't do it were in the very, very tiny minority. So yeah, however distracting one person might have found texting in class to be, asking your classmates not to text was considered, to quote you, a silly, irrelevant request on par with the highlighter thing.

Texting was viewed as being more relevant to our studies than highlighting was. In fact, I was often teased by friends for highlighting or taking notes in the margins when I prepped for class.

And, while I agree with you about texting being rude when you're in company, it was considered far more rude to nip out of the classroom for a bathroom break. The professors more or less accepted the texting conferences and only a couple outright stated that they preferred it not happen in their classes. Different places have different 'corporate' cultures and your norms aren't necessarily the norms everywhere.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Alright, but surely you can understand that your university's culture is the outlier, not the norm? I see where you're coming from, if professors truly accept and encourage that, but I honestly have never heard of a uni where that was standard (not meaning your program doesn't have that culture, but that it is not standard procedure, so to speak). Clearly, I am biased by where I am coming from, and things are different where you are; nonetheless, for my university, I absolutely stand by what I said. I feel the same way about my current workplace; I think it's rude to text in a meeting, for example, or even to write unrelated emails in a meeting.

In any case, I think this whole misunderstanding is coming from the comment you originally replied to. It seems abundantly evident to me that, based on the original comment, the OP's program does not have the same texting culture that yours does. Therefore, their comment about feeling like their classmates weren't working/paying sufficient attention when they texted seems, in some sense, pretty irrelevant to your anecdote about the texting culture in your program. In most programs, texting during class is not standard and an accepted part of the classroom conversation. In yours, it is, which is fine, but that doesn't change or impact what the OP was saying, so I'm not certain what you were going for in your original comment, I guess.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[crunchysunrises]

I've been in university programs where it's not kosher to text in class. (I think it depends on how much tech you're expected to use in class. And your college's atmosphere.)

Even there, where I didn't text, I didn't pay attention to the people who were texting or whatever. As long as they remained discreet (and tended not to take calls in class), what my classmates did (or didn't do) in class wasn't any of my business. And I'm not sure why you and the other commenter seemed to think that it's any of yours. Whatever you feel about manners, it's not in either of your spheres of control. And if the teacher cared deeply about the texting issue, he or she would have made their feelings known. If they can overlook it, then so can you.

(And how the hell do you know whether or not your workmates are writing on topic texts/e-mails in meetings? Do you have that program where your desktops are linked?)

Without looking back, I think I disliked the other commentator's assumption that the texters are necessarily not working hard or paying sufficient attention to the material. And also their assumption that life isn't a team sport, because for the most part it is. While I understand the commentator's perspective, I don't think it's necessarily accurate. (Also, I felt like arguing with strangers on the internet. Hence the reason that I answered using my log in.)