[ SECRET POST #2669 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2669 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[cushlamochree]

I agree a whole bunch and it's a damn shame. It's just this tendency to reduce everything to an absolute good-or-evil argument and to turn issues into black-and-white. IMO the worst culprit for this is abortion - where, on both sides, everyone who disagrees with you is CLEARLY an evil bigot who just doesn't understand morality. It is immensely frustrating. And it's great when you can have real conversations - which does happen on here occasionally thankfully.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[(Anonymous)]

Oh God, abortion. I'm pro-choice and feminist, but I really do think there are pro-life advocates who honestly just think it's taking a life. They're not trying to inhibit women, because it's not so much about women as it is the unborn babies - because that's how they see it. By the same token, just because I'm pro-choice does not mean I believe in abortion as the only choice a woman should make; it doesn't even mean I'd have one myself. It simply means I believe a woman should have the right to do what she wants.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[a_potato]

You know, I think the main difference between most pro-life and most pro-choice people is that pro-choice people recognize necessity. They don't always like that necessity, but they recognize it. And the reason they recognize it is because they know that the alternative is much, much worse.

I find that I can reach an understanding with a person who is pro-life but who is also pro-education and pro-contraception. However, I cannot reach an understanding with a person who is pro-life but also anti-education and anti-contraception, because it is clear to me that dogma is more important to that person than an actual solution.

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[(Anonymous)]

This is me, basically. I hate abortions, I'd have to be in horribly dire straits before I'd have one and I wish nobody would ever need one again. But the only way to get closer to that goal is by reducing the number of unplanned amd unwanted conceptions, and history has pretty much proven that just telling people not to have sex doesn't work.

As for dealing with the ethical dilemma of life vs. choice in the meantime: I was finally able to come to a mental truce with myself by filing abortion under the same "necessary evil" category as personal bankruptcy.

Re: Non-Fandom rants

[darkmanifest]

It's definitely hard to find many who can actually have a discussion about of abortion within a logical context. I've sharpened my debating teeth with a few pro-lifers who made defensible points and I'm grateful for the experience helping me shore up my own defenses, but it's been years since I had a challenge.