[ SECRET POST #2669 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2669 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #381.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Still bullshit, IMO. There's a long time to adjust between the 1970s and the 2000s.

Also, until tumblr? No way. Until the rise of ff.net, established in 1999? Maybe. In some fandoms. By the time LJ was a big deal, slash was totally mainstream in the online discussion/fanfic realm of fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, in 2009, the well-known Surveyfail incident happened, and the very first comment on the actual survey post (now down, couldn't find an archived version... anyone?) was "I'm not sure I want anyone from outside knowing what we do." And in eruthros' superb post criticizing the survey (http://eruthros.dreamwidth.org/273840.html), the FIRST point she makes is "They are outsiders to fandom. They are outsiders to fanfiction. They are outsiders to slash."

So... yeah. "No outsiders" was still the rule as of Obama's first term.

[(Anonymous)]

Makes sense - the desire to keep the tribe "safe" from outsiders is deep and difficult to overcome. But what everyone keeps forgetting - my tribe is not the same as your tribe. And in most people's heads, my tribe is way better than your tribe. Your tribe....is really not OK.

Sometimes I feel like fandom is a closed minded religion full of people preaching The Commandments and looking for any way to hate and shun. Other times it feels like a wild celebration of love where anyone is welcomed. I know which 'tribe' I prefer.

But at least we know we're not all that different or special from the rest of the (tribal) worlds.