[ SECRET POST #2674 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2674 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

...what on earth does this have to do with sexism?

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Somebody in the industry (I think some artist for Pixar or something, I can't remember) said women were "too hard" to draw varieties of, hence why they all look pretty similar. That's probably what they were thinking of.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, this is really gotten into a game of Telephone, hasn't it? No, what he said was that women are harder to animated because it's harder for them to stay on-model. My guess is because female design aesthetics in cartoons (especially Disney, especially Glen Keane girls) is the HUGE eyes which can make them look bizarre if you're not doing things perfectly.

[diet_poison]

that seems like kind of a similar thing to me. like maybe the root of the problem is that people feel like they have to draw women with giant ass teacup eyes. (not saying I hate the design, but that feels pretty limiting, ya know?)

DA

[(Anonymous)]

It was a complaint about sexism, actually. He said working on animating female cast is hard because they're expected to stay pretty at all times, which then gets hard to keep them from going off-model.

Ironically, people use this quote against sexism to claim the animators themselves are sexist instead of... Hating how the audiences and industry works.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't he say it was because female characters are so "emotional" that it's hard to keep them from going off-model, or something?

Okay lets actually see the damn quote

[insanenoodlyguy]

Now whatever you think about it can be a valid opinion.

“Historically speaking, animating female characters are really, really difficult, ’cause they have to go through these range of emotions, but they’re very, very — you have to keep them pretty and they’re very sensitive to — you can get them off a model very quickly. So, having a film with two hero female characters was really tough, and having them both in the scene and look very different if they’re echoing the same expression; that Elsa looking angry looks different from Anna being angry.”

Found this in my first link on google people. First goddamn link.

Re: Okay lets actually see the damn quote

[diet_poison]

:/ yeah. That's pretty freakin dumb. Like male characters don't get angry or...?

Re: Okay lets actually see the damn quote

[(Anonymous)]

They do, but they tend not to be the main characters in Disney Princess movies, so there's not as much pressure from execs to make them look "right", or "pretty".

Re: Okay lets actually see the damn quote

[diet_poison]

True, but at least lately some have been playing pretty important roles. I see what you're saying though.

Re: Okay lets actually see the damn quote

[(Anonymous)]

Well, let's be fair, even if a dude were the lead in a Disney princess movie, do you think they'd be as fixated on keeping them pretty? You think they wouldn't be happy for their expressions to stray into goofy or slightly weird if it looked okay and fit the character and scene?