[ SECRET POST #2674 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2674 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

...stereotypes that the Japanese people who made the video, and the Japanese people who watch the video, seem to be perfectly okay with.

[(Anonymous)]

That still doesn't magically make it not racist, though. I mean, hell, there were black actors who did blackface, does that mean it isn't racist? I don't think so.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, it does kind of magically make it not racist in this particular scenario. You're coming at this from an Americentric viewpoint, which literally does not apply. The video was made by Japanese people, in Japan, for the Japanese audience. Americans don't have a say in it. It's like calling Morning Musume racist because they also have cute song-and-dance numbers that are popular in Japanese pop culture.

[(Anonymous)]

maybe your argument should look more like "It's not racist; it's set in Japan and it has Japanese background dancers, which is different from the kind of caricature that people are accusing it of, especially when compared to similar music videos by Japanese artists made for a similar Japanese audience"

rather than "It's not racist cause Japan said so"

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Or saying it's not racist because a dozen or two Japanese people worked on it. That's not really a good arguement.

[(Anonymous)]

okay so when gays say they are damn fags, is it homophobic?
dear god COMMON SENSE, AMERICAN PEOPLE

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt

What I was getting at was that a handful of people don't get to speak for an entire race about what is or isn't racist or offensive. It's a shitty argument.

[(Anonymous)]

because you actually know it's just a handful of people and your omnipresent statistics must be true, right

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Ayrt

The anon I was replying to mentioned the people who made and produces the vdeo were Japanese. They would be a handful of people in that context and that doesn't mean they get to decide what is offensive or what isn't. Thats what I meant.

[(Anonymous)]

sa

To add on, they don't get to speak for an entire race.

[(Anonymous)]

I can clearly see the whole japanese nation going on a referendum to vote how should Avril make her damn video, then.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you keep talking about a "japanese" race, I mean, can we even talk about a "canadian" race or an "american race"? There are nationalities with their own stereotypes and then there are races. There is, indeed, an asian race with many ethnicities, but ethnicities aren't races.

[(Anonymous)]

because to americans ethnicity = race

[(Anonymous)]

probably because the japanese themselves like to consider themselves a singular unique race. look up 'nihonjinron' if you don't believe me.

[(Anonymous)]

technically? yes, it is. they may be okay with using that word but there are plenty of gay people who aren't, and they don't get to decide that the word is no longer homophobic just because they're okay with it.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I've seen it used by gay men to describe overly flamboyant gay men. To seperate themselves and be how they're totally not like those other f-slurs.

[(Anonymous)]

What i meant is that when someone -or a collective- use a word that denigrates them on a way in which they empower themselves through it, then we can't talk about them being offended, because they pride and obtain power from it. The word keeps being bad on itself? Yeah, but it loses it's denigratory power to those people.

So when japanese people decide that INDEED, they want to be stereotyped as such, then it can't be offensive to them anymore (nor was it on a first place). By believing those things are still offensive for them (even when they believe otherwhise) it's what actually perpetrates the racism and denigration subtext.