[ SECRET POST #2676 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2676 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

The only thing I don't understand here is your definition of high fantasy. GoT fits most definitions I'm familiar with.

[feotakahari]

GoT is pretty blatantly in the style of writers like Joe Abercrombie and Scott Lynch, and they're generally considered low fantasy. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LowFantasy

Edit: though the link describes it as borderline.

[sarillia]

I know GoT has the cynicism of low fantasy but it's got the wide scope and the love of royalty that high fantasy generally has.

[(Anonymous)]

And the magic. I feel like the dragons/magic/knights/etc. put it pretty firmly in High Fantasy camp.

[(Anonymous)]

The magic is very low-key and underplayed. It's in some ways a type of "the magic comes back" story, but if it ever does in force it will be in the last volume.

[greenvelvetcake]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy

Not only is it a work of high fantasy, it is considered a quintessential work of high fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

Hm, meanwhile TVTropes clearly defines it as at the borderline between high/low fantasy both here (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LowFantasy) and here (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HighFantasy)... and when it comes to fandom, fiction and genres, I generally find TV Tropes to be much more accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

It lacks the whole Good vs. Evil aspect that's pretty big in high fantasy. One might even say THE defining element of high fantasy is that it usually has a hero or group of heroes who fight the Big Bad to save the world. So unless the last few books turn into "Daenerys destroys the evil ice monsters and saves everyone", I'd hardly call this series high fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

I frankly don't think of it as high fantasy. To me, high fantasy generally has a ton of magical elements, usually lots of magical creatures, and usually (but not always) some kind of good vs evil. GoT is not that much about magic, so doesn't really strike me as high fantasy.

[sarillia]

I think I've been comparing it to some of my own stories that I call fantasy but other people have argued isn't fantasy at all because there is no magic or anything, just an invented world. Compared to that, GoT feels very much like typical fantasy to me, just a rather more cynical one.

[(Anonymous)]

I can see this argument. I got pretty impatient waiting for the magic to really come up.

[(Anonymous)]

So, while many people misunderstand high/low fantasy to deal with themes and realism--high fantasy being more like sword & spell, Tolkien-esque magic stories with epic heroes and quests and whatnot, low fantasy being more realistic, darker, with more complex characters, it's actually supposed to be used to define the setting, for the most part. And entirely fictitious magical world is high fantasy. Low fantasy is our real world, with magic elements. The grey area is when a world seems sufficiently divergent from ours that it COULD be high fantasy--for instance, Harry Potter occurs mostly in the Wizarding World, which is geographically nebulous and very much segmented from our world.