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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-02 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2677 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2677 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Scribbler]


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[bioshock infinite: burial at sea]


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[True Detective]


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[fire emblem/super smash bros]


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[World of Warcraft]


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12. [SPOILERS for Hannibal]



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13. [SPOILERS for Bioshock: Infinite]



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14. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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15. [WARNING for rape/abuse I'm assuming? Ramsay/Theon stuff]
http://i.imgur.com/Xo0GSkI.png



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16. [WARNING for mental illness/hospitals]



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17. [WARNING for depression]



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18. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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19. [WARNING for rape]

[Game of Thrones]








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(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no. I don't know what you learned in history, but I don't think it was correct.

Germany was the only intact loser after WWI, so they bore the brunt of the blame despite the fact that it wasn't their archduke, they weren't the assassins, and they were far from the first to declare war. Their monarchy was dethroned with no power put in its place, industrialization was all but outlawed, and their economy was so depressed that it could take a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Then someone showed up and told them it was okay to be German, that they could be proud of themselves, and basically to 'stick it to the man', with 'the man' being France, England, and the other victors in this case. He was charismatic, he was driven, he was a brilliant leader, and he was also an insane bigot. It's just that no one knew that last one at the time. By the time his terrible nature became obvious, there were two reasons to keep him in power. One: he'd brainwashed basically all the young adults into accepting his point of view. Two: people still remembered starving and being completely without jobs not even a generation before. In a choice between ignoring something happening to those other people and starving their own families, most people will choose to help the people they know and can actually see. For all those that didn't, though... Well, that was what the SS was for. Fear kept in line those that self-interest didn't motivate.

There's a lot more to it than even that, but it certainly wasn't a conscious choice on the part of the Germans to support the Nazis and their atrocities. Many Germans didn't even know about the atrocities until well into the war, or even after it was done.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That is bullshit. It is so much bullshit even Cracked.com knows it.
http://www.cracked.com/article_21091_5-bullshit-facts-everyone-believes-about-wwii.html

The myth of an intact Germany, the myth of being extra heavily punished, the myth of wrecked economy, all created by the Nazi-party. The real wrecking of the German economy didn't start until after the moustachioed one got into politics.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hitler wasn't successful in politics until after the German Depression hit. His first go-around people thought he was ridiculous.

--Hang on, mustachio? I wouldn't call that a mustachio.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I misread it, but almost nothing in that article even discussed the points I was making, correct or not. Are you sure you got the right one? Was there a Part 2 or something? I'll freely admit that history isn't one of my main interests, but I will stand behind my point that "Vote for us! Our leader is insane, we plan on terrorizing you before making you cannon fodder in our quest for power, and genocide is a great idea!" wasn't on the Nazi party's election posters.

About the only thing I saw relevant was number 3, talking about the bureaucracy. That being true would only mean that the Nazi party had good enough PR to thoroughly terrify the populace even if they couldn't back it up. That still doesn't actually refute anything I said.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me? Weimar? Hyperinflation? Great Depression (pre 1933)?

Please stop with the "history lesson". You do not know a single thing about this period.

Yrs, an actual history graduate

(Anonymous) 2014-05-02 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, Weimar rocked! It did really well until the depression destabilized it.

I will give you that Germany was less responsible for WWI than Austria-Hungary, and maybe less than Russia, but it wasn't dragging its feet very much, either.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Neither did Britain, nor France, nor Russia. Europe was spoiling for a war. They just didn't know what they were getting into until it was too late to back out. Most of the people who signed up here in Canada thought it might be over before they got to the battle, and almost everyone thought it would be over by Christmas. Perhaps part of Europe knew better, but I am unaware of whom they were if that was the case.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
If Germany had stayed out of Belgium and hadn't got battleship fever then Britain would have stayed out of it and Germany would have won. Germany brought Britain into it by creating a naval threat to an island nation and by steamrollering over a neutral country that depended on that other nation for defense. Britain was an unwilling war participant there. If Germany hadn't tried to get Mexico to take back the Alamo it would have kept the US out too. They'd even have avoid war with Japan (Japan was in the allies in WW1) too, since Japan was only a combatant due to their then defense pact with Britain. Germany should have stayed focused on the East and it might even have won, but WW1 was Germany's war.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think as many countries as said they would have remained neutral actually would have. It's an easy story to tell after the fact, when everyone was reeling from how bad it was.

I agree that Germany had plans in place to make itself an empire, hence their overreaching, but I'm not convinced WWI was their war the same way WWII was. The start of that one was all them and their choices.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Britain genuinely was trying to avoid a war -- or at least some factions were. France, Russia, and Germany all had significant factions pushing hard for one. Austria-Hungary was desperate to bolster its credibility and everyone knew it was going to leap on the first opportunity.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, Britain knew it was well fucked if it came to war. Ireland would rebel (it did), Britain wouldn't be able to feed itself (at one point the island was less than a week away from starvation point), its navy was antiquated and a paper tiger (could only manage a strategic draw, and a tactical loss at the only big naval battle), and on land all it could deploy was Lord Kitchener's mustache. Britain would have given just about anything to not have had WW1.

And let us not forget, if it wasn't for Japan getting a taste of being the Imperial Overlords when they guarded the UK's Pacific Possessions (and took the few German ones under their care too), then the entire Pacific Theater of WW2 might never have happened too. Well done Germany, fucking congrats. All you had to do was not go through Belgium.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-03 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh. Sorry for including them in the list, then. I didn't know this, thanks.

Still, most of Europe was spoiling for a war, as far as I know. This wasn't just one country up and deciding one day that they wanted to get in a fight.