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⌈ Secret Post #2678 ⌋

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[ill_omened]

They love woo, and if it's part of your culture.

You're right that they're not super big on say mainstream Christianity (except if it's 'empowering' to you as an oppressed person).

Going back to atheism, they really don't like absolute truths though, which atheism pretty much embodies. It's one of those things which isn't open to debate or changing your frame of reference as an idea, and pretty much all the biggest proponents are middleclass straight white men.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd actually say that lot of the SJWs I've come across have been very opposed to Christianity, since it's a dominant conservative force in American culture.

The vast majority of them are atheists, but they dislike atheists like Richard Dawkins, because of the opinions he holds.

There are some of them who are into the "woo" side of things as well, as you put it. Paganism, wicca, etcetera.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you are right that a lot of people dislike the idea that atheism is the absolute truth.

But it's not because of SJW stuff.

It's because that's a stupid fucking idea.

[ill_omened]

Nah.

You seem to be misreading me. Atheism as a belief leaves little to no room for negotiation in its assertion of an absolute truth. "I do not believe there are any gods" is clear no matter out hard you try to couch it in "but that's like just my opinion man, you are free to think whatever you want, etc etc".

It doesn't give you the room for pretending both your and my views are true that something like agnosticism does.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah.

Well, I still think you're wrong - partly because this isn't the part of atheism that people seem to object to, but also because the vast majority of religions also make these kinds of claims to absolute truth. If that was the issue, they should object as heartily to religion.

[(Anonymous)]

Agnosticism and atheism are not aligned against each other - you can be an atheistic agnostic, just like you can be an atheistic gnostic. You can be a Christian agnostic, even.

The short and the long of this stick is that if you're not at least a little agnostic (i.e. acknowledging the absolute truth that neither religious nor anti-religious positions are provable), you just come across as a bit of a dick, and people dislike that. Both in religious people and in atheists.

This extreme position is more present on the internet in atheists than in religious people, which is why atheists get more flack for it.

[(Anonymous)]

Um. They don't like absolute truths? Since when? They've got a ton of their own 'absolute truths' they proclaim and defend and declare anyone who disagrees with them a heretic. They just happen to be 'absolute truths' pertaining to their particular issues rather than the existence of God or other things relevant to the interests of middle class straight white men.