[ SECRET POST #2679 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2679 ⌋

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Comments

[caecilia]

so...you only watched the beginning of the movie?

[(Anonymous)]

I saw the whole thing twice, and we're shown a total of four conversations between them: One as children (yay snow), one at the party (mmm chocolate-->wtf, you hardly even know him), one at the castle (please come back) and I THINK they exchanged words at the very end there as well.

[caecilia]

okay

but we see them making sacrifices for each other, Anna going out in the wilderness to find Elsa and bring her back, Elsa...breaking the curse that only love could break, them ice skating together at the end where it's clear that things are going to be different from now on and they're going to rebuild the relationship they missed out on

I mean I can see how it wasn't paced well and you weren't that invested in the story, but that doesn't mean that's not what the story was about.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait I thought it was Anna that broke the curse over her heart? As in, I thought the act of true love was one she had to commit herself? Otherwise it doesn't really make sense of why Kristoff riding her to the castle doesn't count as an act of true love since Disney was presenting him as being her (romantic) true love. Plus, when Elsa says "You sacrificed yourself for me?" Anna replies with "I love you." and Olaf supplements it with "an act of true love will thaw a frozen heart," implying that it was Anna's sacrifice for Elsa that saved her. At least, that's the impression I got.

[caecilia]

Okay I just watched the ending again. Yeah. I guess that is what happened. I dunno what I was thinking of.

[(Anonymous)]

It's okay don't feel bad. A lot of people seemed to forget that point in the movie, which actually makes me kinda sad since I liked the idea of the cursed princess breaking her own curse for once. :(

[caecilia]

I think I was comparing it to Beauty and the Beast, when Belle runs in after the Beast is 'dead' and cries and says "I love you." and that's what breaks it. I thought Elsa hugging her and crying was that. I got that Anna's thing was an act of true love but I thought that it needed to be completed by both of them to really work.

It's still sisterly love in any case.

[(Anonymous)]

For Beauty and the Beast the theme was different in that it is "who could ever love a beast?" so it was about someone else learning to love him so the act of love had to be committed by the other person. But in Frozen I thought the mechanics of the curse worked differently and took it to mean that if your heart is the one that is frozen, you are the one who needs to thaw it. For Elsa, she had to realize that love from other people was what she needed to help her, to let people in. For Anna, she had to "put someone else's needs before her own" so her sacrifice was the act of selflessness, in a call-back to Elsa telling Anna "what do you know about true love?" and Anna's decision in the finale to sacrifice herself was the answer to show the audience that she loved Elsa above all others and thus was willing to die for her and that's why I took it to mean that she was the one who had to commit the act of true love, to show that she was putting someone else's needs before hers.

So for me it feels like two similar situations, but different solutions. Plus, one of the Frozen storybooks specifically point out Anna's sacrifice as being the act of true love. I forgot to mention that oops.

[caecilia]

yeah I got that after I watched again, that was just the comparison I made when I saw it in the theater

[(Anonymous)]

I think the fact that it's mutual was central here - they are affectionate toward each other in their own bloody sad way throughout the movie, but they are more "in sync" at the end.

Also, I feel that Kristoff is strongly implied to not be her love yet at that point, wasn't the whole point of their relationship that they're taking it a bit more slowly and getting to know each other?