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Mulder and Scully, Mulder and Scully, Mulder and Scully

They're the most important people in each others' lives long before they get together romantically. They have this complete reliance on each other and this complete bond based on their fundamental worldview and almost philosophical, existential outlook. It's so much more interesting to me seeing that without them also being in a romantic relationship. The romantic stuff is just not at all the aspect of their dynamic that interests me. I would absolutely love it if they both got involved in romantic relationships with other people while still remaining the most important people in each others' lives, that's my weirdo AU headcanon of what should have happened.

You are not alone. I don't *mind* them being in a romantic relationship or anything, and I admit I kinda squeed at some of their UST-y scenes, but romance is just so, so, so not the main point of their bond that I would almost prefer it if they had just stayed the heterosexual equivalent of best friends with lots of hoyay that would never actually get together.

Exactly! I don't mind the relationship either, because I like both their characters, and also... well, they're both just really attractive people. But it's just less interesting.

Oh no, do Mulder and Scully become romantically involved with each other?? (I just started watching X-Files). That makes me :(

The total lack of sexual tension between them was one of the things I liked most!!

:(

Sorry for spoilers! It does take a really, really long time, though, so there's plenty of awesome stuff that you can read as pure professionalism before anything really goes in that direction.

That said... this is going to sound hypocritical, because I just said that I don't ship them, but I do think there is some UST from the beginning. I mean, that one scene from the pilot where Scully is like "look at these bites and see whether I got abducted?"

How far are you up to? Just so I can live vicariously through you...

DA

I'd like to know a good stopping point. I've heard the show goes through some very bad seasonal rot so I'd like to avoid that mess.

Well, it's kind of tough to say, because even at the point where the show as a whole has more weak episodes than good ones and the metaplot becomes complete nonsense, there are still individual episodes worth watching. I would say probably season 7 is where you need to start being a lot more selective about skipping episodes. Season 6 is a logical breakpoint in a lot of ways - it was the season where they moved from Vancouver to LA which changed the texture of the show in a lot of ways and also the show right after the movie - but there's still a lot of decent to good episodes, like Drive, Triangle, and The Unnatural.

Thank you!

Tbh, I don't care that much about the myth arc with aliens. I'm much more interested in the supernatural of the week dealings. Those cases are so much more interestibg to me than aliens.

I completely agree, fwiw, and I think you're going to get a lot more enjoyment out of the show if that's what you care about.

I honestly got kind of bored with the alien plot sometime around the 4th season. But I also just love "weird shit in America" anthology type shows in general.

I'm glad to hear that! I thought that me not caring about the mytharc would make it a bit easier to find a stopping point.

Ditto!! I love those types of shows and it's one of the main reasons that I stopped watching Supernatural after the angels were introduced.

Oh, crap, I agree completely about Supernatural! I didn't stop watching it (almost entirely because of how much I love Bobby Singer) but it was so fantastic before it became nothing but metaplot. Exactly that kind of people driving across America seeing weird shit show. I guess basically what I want from a TV show is Route 66 but with ghosts.

I love Bobby too, but I couldn't watch the show for him. I lost damn near all interest when the angels were introduced. I went back and watched it just to see if I made a mistake and the arc was good. Nope, I made the right decision the first time.

That's what I thought Supernatural would be but it was not meant to be. The first couple of seasons fit and I'm glad to have them but I want a show that's Route 66 with supernatural shit going on. No overreaching mytharc about aliens or angels or whatever. Something character driven and something that doesn't need to explain the mysterious happenings.

Seconding "Drive" and "Triangle."

I'm on my first rewatch of the year of The X-Files, and I'm currently on season three. Mmm, season three.

Season 6 does have a different feel to it, but it also has some of my favorites (thirding the Triangle love) so I'd say watch that one all the way through. My personal stopping-point is about halfway through season 7 (the episode, appropriately enough, is titled "Closure" - and then *very* selective watching of the rest of s7 & 8. There's IMO only 3 episodes of s9 worth watching, and you can marathon them like a movie b/c they're closely related. (the William "trilogy")

A lot of fans I've met aren't just annoyed with s8 & 9 because they're bad (even though they are) but because the creators dragged out the show and made so many questionable decisions that it felt like a kind of betrayal to the fans. 8 felt like an experiment that ultimately didn't work. Most of 9 felt like Chris Carter was just trying to break the show, as hard as he could, as brutally as he could. So much of it was just painful to watch.

See, I was like, "Yay, they could have made it all USTy, but they didn't!" I probably read less into it because of wishful thinking; I really like non-romantic m/f working partnerships. . .

The last episode I watched was Season 1, Episode 18 -- the one with the faith healer.

You can definitely read it as a non-romantic working partnership for the vast majority of the show (and I know you feel, I really like that kind of dynamic too). And I endorse it. I'm just saying, it's not like people who shipped it were, like, delusional or anything.

Wow you're so early in the show! So much left to see...

"that one scene from the pilot where Scully is like "look at these bites and see whether I got abducted?"

When I started watching the show off of Netflix, I was expecting Scully fanservice and disappointment because of the pilot. And then there was practically none such that I kind of wanted some (along with more Skinner skin gdi).

OH MAN THAT ONE SCENE WHERE SKINNER IS IN HIS APARTMENT WITHOUT A SHIRT AND PUNCHES OUT KRYCEK THO

It's like the ultimate distillation of all Skinner scenes into one

I know what you mean re: the fanservice stuff, yeah. The scene in the pilot is definitely very weird tonally and not in keeping with how the rest of the series is. But, you know, Gillian Anderson is an extremely beautiful woman (and David Duchovny is an extremely beautiful man)

I was at a panel where the Anderson and the actor who plays Skinner were talking about their experience on the show, and dude mentioned about how he was working out constantly just in case of one day he might get to take off his shirt in the show. Between that and Anderson assuring a small kid that her in-show dog got eaten years ago, it was an adorable and awesome panel.

And you're absolutely right about those two. I can just watch their scenes on mute, and I'd still think it's a great show. I did love how Scully being sexy wasn't necessarily played down, but played almost subtly and universally acknowledged somehow.

Eh, nothing wrong with that.

To be honest, anon, I ship and continue to ship the hell out of them, but a few seasons in, I stopped caring about whether they got romantically involved or not. Like you said, they already had that deep connection and IMO there was so much love between them that it didn't really matter to me how it was defined.

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