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[ SECRET POST #2681 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2681 ⌋

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THE TRANSLATION WAS A LOT BETTER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD, BUT I DID TAKE CARE AND WROTE IN STANDARD NORWEGIAN AND SHORT CONCISE SENTENCES THAT WOULD BE TRANSLATED PRETTY WELL ON GOOGLE TRANSLATE.

YOU SHOULD BE!

IF I WANTED TO I COULD WRITE LIKE THIS AND ANYONE SCANDINAVIAN WOULD STILL GET IT:

EG VEIT IKKJE KA DE E SOM SKJER MEN UANSETT KA EG SKRIV SÅ HAR DU ITJ SJANS TIL Å FORSTÅ DET SÅ EGENTLI SÅ E EG GASKE SLÆM NO!

Edited 2014-05-07 01:26 (UTC)

OH, WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE FORETHOUGHT.

I GOT:

"I do not know KA DE E HAPPENS BUT WHATEVER KA EG WRITE TO YOU ITJ shan TO UNDERSTAND IT SO SO egentli E EG Gasket SLÆM NO!"

NO PROBLEM!

OHH THAT WAS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN I THOUGHT, I WONDER IF I CAN BEAT GOOGLE TRANSLATE COMPLETELY?

Æ KANJ ITJ SEI AT Æ E SPES FLENK TE Å SKRIV PÅ TRØNDERSK, MEN Æ KAN JO PRØV LITJ HARDER ENJ Æ HAR JORRE HITTE, SÆTNINGA SOM: HANJ HUNNJ I BÅNN MED HUHONJ I ANNER HÅNN, SKA I TEORIEN VÆR UMULI Å OVERSETT...

THAT IS INTO TERRITORY OF ONLY PEOPLE WITH MY DIALEKT WILL UNDERSTAND IT, I COULD GO EVEN DEEPER INTO THE BASTARDISATION OF THE NORWEGIAN LANGUAGE, BUT IT HURTS ME TO DO SO!

FOR THE RECORD WHAT I WROTE IN THE LAST COMMENT WAS: I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, BUT NO MATTER WHAT I WRITE, YOU DON'T HAVEA CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND IT SO REALLY, I AM PRETTY MEAN RIGHT NOW.

"Æ Kanjar ITJ SEI AT Æ E SPES FLENK TE TO WRITE ON Trøndersk BUT Æ can try Litj ENJ HARDER Æ HAVE Jorren hitter, SÆTNINGA THAT: Hanja HUNNJ to the metal with HUHONJ In Anner HÅNN, SKA THEORY FOR UMULI To Translate"

YOU'RE NOT MEAN. IT'S FINE. I WOULD BE DOING THE SAME BUT MY SECOND LANGUAGE IS VISUAL ONLY.

I BEAT GOOGLE TRANSLATE! WELL 99% BEAT IT (ONE WORD GOT TRANSLATED, THE OTHER ONE HAS THE SAME SPELLING IN BOTH LANGUAGES, BUT IS NOT THE CORRECT STANDARDIZED NORWEGIAN SPELLING), I AM SO PROUD RIGHT NOW!

HERE IS THE TRANSLATION:
"I CAN'T SAY THAT I AM ESPECIALLY GREAT AT WRITING IN "TRØNDERSK"*, BUT I COULD TRY A BIT HARDER THAN WHAT I HAVE DONE UNTIL NOW, SENTENCES LIKE: MALE DOG ON A LEASH WITH A FEMALE DOG IN THE OTHER HAND, SHOULD IN THEORY BE IMPOSSIBLE TO TRANSLATE. "

*THAT IS THE NAME OF MY DIALEKT

ANYWAY, I KNOW, BUT I HAD TO FIND A WORD THAT WOULD BE HARD TO TRANSLATE, OH WE SHOULD MEET UP AND HAVE SECRET CONVERSATIONS IN SIGN LANGUAGE, AS I KNOW A BIT NORWEGIAN AND ODDLY ENOUGH SOME ASL...

CONGRATULATIONS!

YOUR DIALECT HAS A KICKASS NAME.

WE WILL FUMBLE WITH OUR HANDS PAST EACH OTHER. LINGUISTICALLY. I'M IN. WAIT, NORWEGIAN ISN'T BASED OFF LSF LIKE ASL IS, RIGHT?

I AM PRETTY PROUD OF THAT ONE, BUT I DID HAVE TO CHOOSE MY WORDS CAREFULLY!

YEAH IT KINDA DOES!

WE COULD, YOU ARE A LOT BETTER THAN ME THO! I JUST KNOW THE ALPHABET/NUMBERS AND ENOUGH SIGNS TO GIVE A DEAF PERSON DIRECTIONS IF THE NEED ARISES, OR HAVE A SHORT CONVERSATION.

I LOOKED AT THE LSF ALPHABET AND IT LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE NORWEGIAN ONE THAT I WAS TAUGHT, WHICH IS THE ONE HANDED SIGN LANGUAGE, WE ALSO HAVE TWO HANDED SIGN LANGUAGE AND "SPEECH TO SIGN LANGUAGE", THE LATTER MOSTLY USED BY HARD OF HEARING AND PEOPLE WITH LEARNING DIFFICULTIES, IT IS ALL EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BY THE FACT THAT THERE IS NO STANDARD NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE LIKE ASL, SO IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM COUNTY TO COUNTY. THERE IS A STANDARD SET OF SIGN LANGUAGE YOU LEARN IF YOU GO TO SCHOOL TO BE A INTERPRETER, BUT THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS THE ONE DEAF PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES USE, IT IS SIMILAR, BUT NOT EXACTLY THE SAME. AND I COULD PROBABLY WRITE PAGES ABOUT THIS, BUT I ASSUME YOU GET THE PICTURE?

BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT, DEAF PEOPLE TEND TO NOT HAVE TOO MANY ISSUES TRANSLATING THE SIGNS, IT IS WORSE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TAUGHT IT AT A LATER AGE TO COMPENSATE AND/OR UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES IN SIGNS. I COULD OFF COURSE BE COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT I AM PRETTY SURE I READ A PAPER ON IT, OR WAS TOLD IT BY SOMEONE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

NAW, I GET YOU. I TOOK A SOCIOLINGUISTIC CLASS IN ASL ON A BUNCH OF SIGN LANGUAGES. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE JUST SPECIFICALLY DIDN'T GO INTO NORWAY WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT EUROPE.

I DUNNO ABOUT THAT. I KNOW YOU CAN'T JUST SIGN TWO SEPARATE LANGUAGES AT EACH OTHER, LIKE BSL AND ASL, BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FAMILIES SO THERE'S NO CROSSOVER WORDS. IF THEY'RE IN THE SAME FAMILY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME THINGS THROUGH. AS FOR WHO CAN INTERPRET WHAT, THAT DEPENDS ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT LANGUAGES. I'VE SEEN DEAF AND HEARING SUCCEED AND FAIL EQUALLY.

OH COOL, YEAH PROBABLY NOT THE MOST USEFUL COUNTRY TO LOOK AT TBH. HERE IS THE ALPABETH I KNOW: http://www.acm.no/materiell/handalfabet/alfa1h.gif

I'M PROBABLY REMEMBERING SOMETHING WRONG, I AM NOW APPROACHING 45 HOURS AWAKE...

SOME OF THE LETTERS ARE THE SAME AND SOME AREN'T. HERE'S ASL.

THEN THE QUESTION IS WHY IS THE LSF ALPHABET LESS SIMILAR TO THE NORWEGIAN ONE THAN ASL?

BECAUSE ASL IS BASED ON LSF, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. ASL WAS ALTERED A LOT FROM LSF TO FIT AMERICAN DEAF. I COULD GO INTO THE WHOLE HISTORY SOMETIME BUT MOST PEOPLE FIND IT KINDA BORING. I LIKE IT THOUGH.

I REALLY DID WORD MYSELF BADLY THERE I SEE, ESL AND NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE ALPHABET ARE MORE ALIKE, THAN THE NORWEGIAN AND THE LSF ONE.

AND I WILL HAVE TO RETRACT AN EARLIER STATEMENT, YES NSL IS BASED ON THE LSF, BUT NOT DIRECTLY IT IS BASED ON THE DANISH ONE (WHICH WAS BASED ON LSF), AND IT IS NOT RECOGNIZED AS A LANGUAGE IN NORWAY.

MADAGASCAR USES NORWEGIAN SIGN LANGUAGE THO!

HERE IS THE SADLY REALLY WATERED DOWN ENGLISH WIKI ARTICLE IF YOU WANNA READ IT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_Sign_Language

I WOULD PROBABLY FIND IT INTERESTING, BUT IT WILL HAVE TO BE ANOTHER DAY!

THEN THE SEPARATION MAKES EVEN MORE SENSE.

YEAH, YOU FIND POCKETS LIKE THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD. YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE AND GO, "OH HELLO LANGUAGE. HOW DID YOU GET THERE?"

YES, PREFERABLE WHILE I AM NOT CONTINUOUSLY HOLDING SHIFT.

YUP...

IN THE MADAGASCAR CASE THERE IS A SIMPLE EXPLANATION: MISSIONARIES.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CAPSLOCK KEY? BUT YEAH, IT IS SO WEIRD DISCUSSING THIS IN ALL CAPS...

YEAH, MOST ARE EXPLAINED THAT WAY.

REAL WOMEN HOLD SHIFT.

YUP!

SURE, SURE...

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