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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-09 07:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #2684 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2684 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear ya, OP. I read a fic once in which one of the main characters was raped (off-screen). The very first thing she did once she got home was let her male friend BATHE HER.

In my review, I told the author, "Oh thank goodness, it seemed like you were setting up [female character] to be raped, but it's obvious from the fact that she allowed [male friend] to bathe her that no rape occurred."

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Because everyone responds to rape the same way. I'm not saying author was right, but, uh, neither are you.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my friends spent months thinking something was wrong with her because she wasn't horribly traumatized after being raped. People kept telling her she was just in shock and that it would set in eventually, but guess what? It never did. She was upset, sure, and she still won't drink at parties, but she wasn't irreversibly emotionally scarred by it and that's okay. That's just how she responded to it.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-05-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+100
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[personal profile] tenlittlebullets 2014-05-10 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
+1. Horribly upsetting yes, still carrying emotional baggage yes, but traumatic? Thankfully no.

And--potential TMI alert--people do react in different ways. The very first thing I wanted afterwards, before I even managed to wrench my brain into gear enough to put words to what had happened, was to be touched by someone who wouldn't hurt me. Just, like. Reality check that intimate touch that does not leave six weeks' worth of bruising is indeed a thing that exists in the world. If someone I trusted had offered to soap my back and politely ignore my gross sobbing while I washed the uckiness off, hell yeah I would've taken them up on it.

(I love non-con fic. Even when it's crappy formulaic h/c, I love that fandom feels the need to tell stories about this thing that looms so large in our collective consciousness. And when it's well done and the characters' reactions are affected both by the circumstances--being attacked by a stranger, pressured and coerced by an acquaintance, betrayed by a friend, or tortured by someone who hates you are all gonna leave different sets of issues behind--and by what we know about the characters as people, then I can chow down on it like some sort of masochistic comfort food.)

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
My point was that it was painfully obvious that the author had never been raped and had no idea what she was talking about whatsoever. As apparently, you don't.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-05-09 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think rape necessarily results in the victim's being wary of all men? Sometimes they'll be wary of a particular group (e.g. ethnicity), sometimes they won't be wary at all. I'd say it depends on the character.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. I was raped and I then asked my male friend if I could get in bed with him after, although not the same night, because I didn't feel safe any more.

I hated most men at the time, but not him. I once shouted out loud that I hated men at a concert we went to. He gave me a disapproving look and I felt a bit ashamed, but I did have reasons. He taught me men are okay at a bad time for me. We're still platonic friends, both have other halves now, and he's great.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-05-10 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you had someone like this. He sounds like an awesome friend.

And I do hope you feel better now. I know traumatic experiences may be incredibly hard to move on from.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Giving a rape victim a disapproving look for a perfectly understandable reaction and making her feel ashamed? Actually he sounds like an asshole.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-05-10 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
He's a human being, not her therapist. Being a bit miffed when someone says that they hate a group of people you belong to is, too, a pretty natural reaction. I expect it is for these reasons that the original anon sounds chill when talking about it. Why ever you try to retrospectively defend a person who doesn't seem to agree with you is beyond me.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, one of the reactions to rape is to want the touch of someone the victim loves and/or trusts to try and "wipe away" that bad touch of the rapist. To reassure them that they are still loved/cherished/desirable afterwards.

Not all rape victims go "don't touch me!" in the aftermath. So, yeah... I feel sorry for the author you felt it necessary to "correct".

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Don't feel sorry for her. She was attempting to write about something of which she had no experience and had obviously never done any research into.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
And hopefully, she never has that experience.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
You expect people to go 'get experience' of being raped? You're the pedo joke troll from the other thread, aren't you? Dude, some of us work weird hours so we have an excuse for being here, but wouldn't you be better off going out and having a proper Friday night?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-10 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
People don't need to do research on rape to write their porn.