[ SECRET POST #2686 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I like a really weird variety of things... Buffyverse, Doctor Who, Firefly, some comedies, Mad Men.

[(Anonymous)]

I know this is putting a lot on you, but there have been feminist critiques made of most of the shows you mentioned (esp Doctor Who under Moffat which if you listen to some people is the most misogynist thing ever made or whatever). Would you mind talking a little about why you don't find feminist critiques compelling in these cases, or more generally, I guess, what separates the stuff that you dislike from the stuff that you like?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Wait, maybe I'd better back up. When I said "it's not my thing" I meant Breaking Bad, not feminist critiques.

[(Anonymous)]

Errr... yes? Sorry, I think I'm missing something or being horribly unclear or something, let me see if I can avoid doing that.

You said (assuming you're OP or someone that agrees with them) that you don't like Breaking Bad etc because you're a feminist, presumably because you agree with feminist critiques of those shows. You also listed a bunch of other shows that you do like, many of which - like Mad Men and Doctor Who - have also had feminist critiques made of them. So I'm just wondering whether you could talk a little about why the feminists critiques of Doctor Who and Mad Men don't affect your enjoyment of those shows but critiques of Breaking Bad etc do. Or to put it another way, what do you think makes the difference between the shows that you like and the shows that being a feminist has made you dislike? And this isn't a veiled attack or anything, I really am just curious.

Does that make more sense? apologies if I'm still rambling nonsensically (or if any of my assumptions are wrong)

[(Anonymous)]

SA - sorry, just saw your comment below! Apologies again for any confusion

[(Anonymous)]

Anon You Sort Of Replied To ;)

It's not a problem, just a misunderstanding. :) I did wonder why you asked in the first place...

[visp]

Mad... Men?

[fauxkaren]

Mad Men is full of pretty fantastic female characters.

[visp]

Yes, it does, but so does Game of Thrones and I thought that was OP, so I was like: "If we're griping about shows that portray a lot of sexism..."

[rubbertea]

let me get this straight. you (assuming you're op) have a problem with the female characters of got, breaking bad, true detective and hannibal, but doctor who gets a pass?

[(Anonymous)]

No, I'm not the OP... not sure where anyone got that idea...

Im' so confused right now. I think I may have thought a comment was meant for me when it wasn't. :/

OH

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, ignore all of this... I'm not OP. I thought you were responding to a comment I'd made above. Thanks to my vision issues I sometimes get confused with comment boxes.

Sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

JOSS WHEDON IS NOT A FEMINIST OKAY

6125

[(Anonymous)]

He's a creep with an ephebophiliac foot fetish.

Re: 6125

[(Anonymous)]

OH MY GOD I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES IT

INARA WAS SUPPOSED TO GET RAPED BY REAVERS IN AN EPISODE AND KILL THEM ALL WITH ~SEX~ AND THEN MALCOLM WAS GOING TO TREAT HER LIKE ~A LADY~ BECAUSE SHE WASN'T ONE WHEN THE SEX WAS CONSENSUAL

Yeaaaaaaah.

I HATE Joss Whedon, probably more because he's pushed as this super progressive feminist and he's not.

Re: 6125

[greenvelvetcake]

Wait, what? I've never heard of that plotline with Inara before, where did you hear it?

Re: 6125

[(Anonymous)]

It was at a con, Whedon was talking about where he was going to have gone with the show if it hadn't been cancelled. With storylines like that, we're glad it was.

[insanenoodlyguy]

WHEDON IS THE BEST FEMINIST AND THE ONLY ONE I RESPECT WHY CAN'T YOU CRAZY DAMES BE MORE LIKE HIM

[(Anonymous)]

See above where I'm not the OP and thought someone was asking me a question, not OP. Sorry about that.

[esteefee]

You should check out Person of Interest. They give terrific female characters, and right now there are two pretty freaking awesome ones in the leads (Sam Shaw and Root.) Plus, the Machine is referenced as "She."

[(Anonymous)]

Yet they fridged the only black character (who was also a woman) this season.

[esteefee]

You can say a lot about Carter's death -- that it was a tragic loss of an awesome character, that we all miss the hell out of her and the show isn't the same without her -- but I don't think you can call her death a fridging. Any fridge-like aspects were tacked ham-handedly on like an afterthought, and seriously were not the point.

But there must be a clause in every writer's contract that says they have to treat every female character death that way or something. I swear to God.

Anyway, that doesn't take away two seasons of Carter's awesome arc, nor the fact there is Sam Shaw, who has bizarre, unnatural depths of cool I want to emulate. Or the fact the Machine is referred to in canon as "she" and "God" and pretty much controls everyone's actions through Root.

[(Anonymous)]

and you think Mad Men isn't sexist???? bzuh?