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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2686 ]


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Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Conservative: "You shouldn't have premarital sex! You shouldn't use birth control! You can't have sex with someone of the same sex! My bible says all these things are wrong!"

Liberal: "It's totally fine to have sex with whoever you want under whatever circumstances you want, as long as you're having sex with someone. If you're not interested in it there's something wrong with you! You NEED to have sex whether you want to or not."

The latter bothers me just as much as the former.

*considers myself a liberal btw*
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-05-11 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's actually a liberal talking point.
comma_chameleon: (Default)

Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] comma_chameleon 2014-05-11 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. As someone who's never had sex and has no interest in it (and is as liberal as hell) and is quite vocal and honest about my lack of interest, I've NEVER had ANYONE tell me I need to be having sex.

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's what started the discussion among my friends (and they all agreed with):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA9tUXNecLU
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Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-05-12 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
The opinions expressed in that video were moronic and your friends are idiotic.
Edited 2014-05-12 01:16 (UTC)
comma_chameleon: (Jin is usually invalid.)

Re: Controversial opinions

[personal profile] comma_chameleon 2014-05-12 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I was going to be more polite, but yeah... that pretty much sums up my feelings about that video too. XD

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I know, it's just something I see a lot with people I know. They think their view is genuinely better than the conservative viewpoint when to me it seems to be basically the same thing, and it really annoys me.

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Couldn't find the link before but here's what started the discussion among my friends (and they all agreed with):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA9tUXNecLU

They seem to focus on the sex aspect which seems to be missing the point anyway since apparently the issue is about people having kids, which isn't necessarily going to happen even if they have more sex (birth control is a thing that exists!).

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I was all wtf is up with that flimsy strawman...

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Did you mean to post this to someone else? Those are things I've genuinely seen people (who call themselves liberals) say. You can watch the linked video for an example.

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's not anything like a mainstream liberal position. The liberal position would be more like: "Any sex that takes place within the context of informed, enthusiastic, non-coercive consent is totally okay. No consent = no sex, though." So if you don't want to have sex, you're not consenting, obvs. I don't know where you get the notion that liberals think sex is mandatory for everyone.

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-11 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's what started the discussion among my friends (and they all agreed with):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA9tUXNecLU

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Your friends may identify as political liberals, but they're being illiberal when it comes to policing other people's sexuality. It happens!

Re: Controversial opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
:goes to watch video, sees who it is, closes window:

Those guys are fucking idiots on many different topics. I wouldn't take anything they say too seriously.