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THE big MRM hub online, what fundamentally IS the MRM online (apart from the reddit sub, which promotes and links to it) is A Voice For Men, which is owned and operated by one Paul Elam, who has this to say about female rape victims:

"In the most severe and emphatic terms possible the answer is NO, THEY ARE NOT ASKING TO GET RAPED. They are freaking begging for it. Damn near demanding it. And all the outraged PC demands to get huffy and point out how nothing justifies or excuses rape won’t change the fact that there are a lot of women who get pummeled and pumped because they are stupid (and often arrogant) enough to walk though life with the equivalent of a I’M A STUPID, CONNIVING BITCH – PLEASE RAPE ME neon sign glowing above their empty little narcissistic heads. In my opinion their plight from being raped should draw about as much sympathy as a man who loses a wallet full of cash after leaving it laying around a bus station unattended."

Here is a link to the quote, in context, on A Voice For Men:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/challenging-the-etiology-of-rape/

This is the kind of person who runs and directs the MRM. Elam is a HUGE name in the movement. Want some more reasons to not be a fan of them? Here's a link to some things that the MRM regularly lies about to get more people on their side:

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/myths-of-the-manosphere-lying-about-women

Here is a deconstruction of some of the lies and inaccuracies regarding history that the MRM, particularly another of their big-name spokespersons, regularly spread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/1zs9c4/the_western_world_once_had_genuine_equality/

Again, this is the MAINSTREAM of the MRM. These are their movers and shakers. These are the people who lead the movement. They are not the lunatic fringe who misrepresent a mostly sane movement that you think they are. These ARE the movement. And I'm telling you this as someone who identifies as an egalitarian, not a feminist (I believe that men and women are and should be absolutely equal, I think that many feminists do great work, I just don't agree with everything that feminists are apparently required to.)

May all the gods in all the pantheons bless you for this.

holy shit that is fucking terrifying

welp, there goes my faith in humanity for the day

As Jim Sterling put it, they're a bunch of "threatened, frightened monkeys." As long as trogs like this exist progressivism (feminism included) will always be necessary.

The weird part is that they insist that feminism is responsible for the rigid and stifling gender roles that men still often face, and at the same time they're all like EVERYTHING WILL BE PERFECT IF WE JUST RETURN SOCIETY TO ITS FORMER STATE CIRCA 1915, EXCEPT FOR WWI BECAUSE THE HIGH DEATH TOLL WAS ALL THE FAULT OF WOMEN FOR NOT GOING INTO BATTLE EXCEPT THAT WOMEN ARE TOO DELICATE AND IRRATIONAL TO BE SOLDIERS. I really do not understand how anyone can possibly get SO MUCH history completely ass-backwards.

Yeah, the whole "(American) society is sexist against men because only men have to sign up for the draft" combined with "women suck too much to be soldiers and putting them on the front lines will only get men killed" argument (and they inevitably go hand in hand in the MRA crowd) blows my mind.

I think I lost a few brain cells

holy shit. fuck that guy. >:(

But that would be gay and he might be oppressed!

That reddit link is glorious, thank you.

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