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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

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elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Metal Arm)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-11 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think anything in the MCU terrifies me as much as Winter Soldier. Both the fact that he's an extremely efficient killing machine, or that he used to be a good person that's had his free will stripped from him in order to do things that once he remembers will haunt him for the rest of his life.

Thanks, Marvel.

And that Fanart is the best thing ever, omg... So cute! I want it in Cap 3.
ketita: (Default)

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-12 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm reading the Winter Soldier run in the comics right now (I was curious, after the movie), and tbh I feel like the brainwashing thing has a bit less impact there because there is SO MUCH BRAINWASHING.

TBH, I think MCU made a lot of very good calls in how they adapted the story, because there are things I am liking so much more in the movie (yeah whatever I'm a bad comics fan who cares)
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Nat (profile))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-12 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Lmao, I do think there's a fair bit of brainwashing in the Marvel Universe, even in the stuff I haven't touched and have only heard about secondhand. I like the comic but I also totally love what Marvel did with Winter Soldier and kind of prefer the movie in certain ways as well if only for the fact that it has all these amazing actors who completely embody these roles. And I admit to liking Steve helping Bucky remember simply by the power of his loveeee instead of the cosmic cube. I liked Sam and Nat's roles so that's a big plus as well, and I didn't really miss Red Skull. I don't think it makes you a bad fan for preferring either version; everyone has different tastes, the movie caters to you more and that's okay.
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Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-12 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
//nod

I do think that all the actors did an absolutely stellar job in bringing the characters to life, and that's part of what made me love them. I wasn't even much of a Cap fan until his movies came out and Chris Evans sold me on the character.
I was a little bit underwhelmed by the cosmic cube, just because it had him remember so quickly, you know? It didn't leave as much room for satisfaction.
Yeah, I mostly find the Red Skull annoying, so I was glad in retrospect he wasn't in the movie.
I guess I just tend to like the tighter storylines the movie has, because the comics do branch out so much. While I am enjoying the Winter Soldier run overall, it's not punching me in the gut the way the movie did (well, except for the big spoiler about Cap that happens early on which I was NOT expecting)
elaminator: (Avengers: Cap (leather jacket))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-12 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know much about Cap before the film's either, but Evans is such a great Steve. He's so kind and good and has such conviction... He's such a fun, likable, brave guy. I just want to hug him.

Yea, the cube was rather fast. I can see why that might not be the most appealing option. What did you think about Bucky's memories in the film, btw? Did you think he remembered anything about Steve at the end of the film (Maybe that “End of the line” memory?) or do you think he was just so shocked that someone cared about him that much that it caught him off guard? I've seen all kinds of different answers and I still don't know what I believe, but I like to hear other people's interpretations.

Yea, I felt like the comic was a bit more over the place with the story. It wasn't as clear cut or interesting. I did like bits of it, but the film did a great job of making everything come together in a satisfying way.

(What was Cap's secret, btw? It's been about nine months since I read the comics and I've read a shitload of fanfic since then... I don't remember a secret. I don't think...)
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Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-12 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
I almost didn't go see the film because I was meh about Captain America, but then I totally got excited about him, and now he's probably my favorite Avenger. I was impressed how they made him actually kind and good, as opposed to stuffy and self-righteous, where these things can so easily go wrong.

My headcanon at the end of the movie is that part of it is him being shocked off guard, and he's got... bits of memories and stuff coming up. We saw earlier in the movie that he did remember Cap, so I think that he's got flashes coming and going, but nothing very concrete.

The comic has some very good moments, but yeah, it's very... branching out. My one gripe with the film is that I wish there had been a bit more screentime devoted to Steve and Bucky, because I thought that movie could have had just a wee bit more Captain America and the Winter Soldier in it, you know?

I just hope Civil War doesn't happen because I did not like Tony there one bit.

I was more referring to the fact that early on in the run Steve dies and was killed by Sharon, which I was very much not expecting. Also the part with the second Captain America was pretty painful, when he showed up.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Cap (badass walk))

Re: To no one's surprise, Captain America

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-12 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree on everything. Not that I hated comic Steve; I didn't read enough to know him as well as movie Steve, but I'm glad they didn't make him pompous. He's a great guy, glad they didn't mess with that.

Bucky remembering some bits and pieces but not having a firm grasp on everything probably makes the most sense. I like the idea of him remembering his life slowly, and having time to process it.

I certainly wouldn't have objected to more Steve and Bucky! What with the film named after Winter Soldier there was surprisingly little of him. What moments he had were amazing and very poignant, but I would have liked them to have more scenes together too. Maybe on the DVD...

Right, hahaha... Ugh, I don't want to think about Civil War. IMO that storyline wouldn't work in the film's at all and if Marvel decides to recreate it they'll be making a big mistake. How many films would they even have to dedicate to it? DNW.