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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-11 03:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2686 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2686 ⌋

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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-12 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
This is a weird comment. We all know what the necessities of life are - food, water, protection from danger, etc. Sex is not a necessity to live. It is a necessity to reproduce, which is why we have such a strong drive for it, so if everyone stopped having sex* our race would die out. But it isn't an individual necessity for any person to stay alive. It might affect them in some way (I really don't know, having not experienced it myself), but it's not necessary. You won't die if you can't fuck.

*notwithstanding a future scenario where we grew babies in tubes or something. which would be kinda depressing tbh.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-12 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
No? That is the definition of "necessities of life". They are the things that keep you alive.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-12 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
How can you justify calling anything other than those a "necessity" though? A thing of great importance, sure, I can agree with that. But a "necessity"? What is your definition of the word "necessity"?
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Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
That seems to be rather flawed logic to me. Everyone needs food, shelter, clothing, healthcare, and education, but there are plenty of people who are perfectly happy without sex or intimacy or even actively reject it for whatever reason.
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Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose I'm just wary of classing sex as a 'need' because it seems to me like you could use that to justify some skeevy things, like marital rape.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well, no. The only actual things people need to survive on that list are food and shelter. People can get on without clothing, healthcare, or education. And there are perfectly happy people who do.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-13 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, yeah, that puzzled me when I first learned about it. Especially because I was getting along just fine without sex, and still am, even though I'm definitely not asexual. I won't claim though that everyone's experience is going to be the same though.

Logically speaking, you don't need sex to live, and I personally think that people need to consider the consequences of their decisions when I make them. EXTRA BOLD CAVEAT: the government doesn't need to do it for them. I just wish individuals would be more careful.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
You and I won't die if we can't fuck. But if everyone on the planet decided not to have sex, then the species would cease to be. From an evolutionary standpoint, that's contrary to survival.

We have to reproduce. The drive to do so is actually the most important of any of our drives, if we adopt a natural view. We have to carry on the species. If we don't, then we are nothing. We are but a blip on the radar.

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound like an evangelical cis white male.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
lol, forreal? Would an evangelical person say "we are but a blip on the radar"??

Re: nayrt

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The drive to do so is actually the most important of any of our drives

It's really, really not.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-13 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna have to agree here. Survival is our basest drive. If we're dead, sex is pointless. This is especially true because humans take longer - far longer - than the vast majority of all sexually reproducing species to reach sexual maturity.
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Re: nayrt

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-13 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Did you even read my comment? Because I basically said exactly that

It does not follow, from that statement, that every single human must reproduce with every single impulse they have to do so. Seriously, we all need to have about 2 kids (some people 3) in order to keep our population stable. And that's an average.

I'm super aware, in light of this conversation, how creepy that sounds. Emphasis: some people won't have kids because they DON'T WANT TO, or physically cannot, NOT BECAUSE someone said they shouldn't. Ideally, everyone who wanted to have kids would do so.