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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-12 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2687 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2687 ⌋

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riddian: (Knockout music)

[personal profile] riddian 2014-05-12 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't see the movie, but what I've heard of it, this is pretty much the consensus on it. That and racebending wank.

I wasn't too impressed with the soundtrack, it was nice but nothing standout aside from "Travel to Edinburgh," which has a great piano part.

(Soundtrack rec thread, anyone? I need to tell people about Amazing Spider-Man 2.)
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-12 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If you like classical music then you should check out the Tree of Life soundtrack. The friend who told me I should watch that movie was getting annoyed at me because the music was practically the only thing I was commenting on.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to add an 'except' - the music on the official soundtrack is by Alexandre Desplat (he did HP Deathly Hallows). I'm not sure how much of his music is on the soundtrack, but IMO some of the most stunning music for Tree of Life was actually by Zbigniew Preisner's 'Requiem for My Friend' (which is an album that I absolutely adore).

Just wanted to point that out, because I believe the official OST does not include Preisner's music.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think Alexandre Desplat is a pretty mediocre composer. I almost never remember how any of his work sounds.

And it's not bitterness because I preferred Nicholas Hooper's work on Harry Potter, at all
riddian: (Bucky likes this)

[personal profile] riddian 2014-05-13 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
I checked out "Requiem For My Friend" and wow, what a powerful album! Thanks, anon. :D

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard the score before I watched the film and by itself it was nothing special. It only works afterwards for me when there's some emotional association because of the movie. Nice enough music but not strong enough to stand on its own, IMO.
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[personal profile] souljelly 2014-05-12 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought it was entertaining enough but not spectacularly mind blowing or anything. On the other hand, I made a valiant attempt to read the book but couldn't get past the first two chapters. :/
Edited 2014-05-12 23:13 (UTC)
kallanda_lee: (Mystique Mirror)

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it goes a bit beyond karma, though. It's also has the recurrent theme of cannibalism (sometimes literally, but also in the way of "dog eat dog" or people preying on each other). And it's also how small actions, ideas can influence people and history over generations - how no actio exists in a vacuum, and how one drop in an ocean can create change over time.

It's okay to be underwhelmed (and I think the book is in some ways better than the film- elaborating more on some themes and anso playing with writing styles) - but I still think it was a great way of storytelling, and one of the more thought-provoking films I've seen in the last few years.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
If your religion and upbringing makes you think about all that anyway, a movie is not going to be provoking any new thought about it.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
But apparently you find it new and thought-provoking that not all movies are made especially with you and your upbringing in mind?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Pointing out that there's reason to not be blown away like a lot of other people seem to have been. Unruffle them feathers, nonny, you sound singed.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-05-12 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My point is that I thought it went way beyond the religious concept of karma as I understand it and had other overarching themes that are very interesting (imo).

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also more to Hinduism than karma, though. Why didn't OP put all of that, IDK, there's only so much space in a secret?

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. You read the book on the level it was meant to be read, rather than being distracted by surface style elements like the OP.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it's not the greatest, smartest movie ever made, but I did think it was an unusual concept for a film - even if the philosophical concept may not be something groundbreaking.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
My family is Sikh so I grew up with this info too, but honestly, most people who don't have it as part of their culture are familiar with the concepts of karma and reincarnation anyway. I think it was the execution that made the film interesting.
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[personal profile] othellia 2014-05-13 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
This. While I don't think the concepts of karma and reincarnation are quite as mainstream as IDK... football or Katy Perry, they're not exactly obscure either.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-12 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I tried to read the book and I got bored, honestly. I wonder if the movie is better.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2014-05-12 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was alright, but I was high at the time.

I think the whole black- white- Asian-face thing actually worked against the theme of oneness, though, because it was always so brutally obvious when an actor was playing someone of a different race. If your theme is that race is only skin deep, showing beyond a shadow of a doubt that altering superficial features doesn't work is the opposite of helpful.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
the makeup was really freaky looking and distracted me from the rest of the movie. Uncanny valley BIGTIME.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
The book was absolutely wonderful. (I wasn't very impressed with the movie...especially the yellow face).

The future dystopia chapters were the best, in my opinion.
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It really offers nothing new even as an American film

[personal profile] ozaline 2014-05-13 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I recommend checking out Oancitizen's review of both the original book, and the film... they are quite different (the book only has one recurring soul), but as a film there have been many similar films though as he points out including INTOLERANCE from 1916.
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[personal profile] alexi_lupin 2014-05-13 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I really liked it. I haven't seen a movie like that before.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
The reincarnation trope was just a device David Mitchell used to illustrate the books deeper themes. The book wasn't about karma, but about humanity and how difficult it is to be a good, positive human being in a world full of predators. And how even if we feel like the positive, helpful actions we take are tiny in comparison to the greater horror of the wider world, they still matter. An ocean is made of up drops of water.