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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-12 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2687 ]


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cassandraoftroy: Chiana from Farscape, an alien with grayscale skin and hair (Default)

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-05-13 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Let's see...

-A job that carries nonexistent, or even negative respect
-A job in which employees must carry heavy trays of hot items from an overheated kitchen to a chilly dining room, back and forth, all shift
-A job in which a busy period may mean not getting a break or other opportunity to eat, while having to serve other people their food with a smile
-A job in which the legally-guaranteed rate of pay is pretty much just enough to cover your taxes, so your take-home pay is almost exclusively determined by the whims of customers who have little or no respect for you, and blame you for mistakes made by the kitchen or for other circumstances over which you have no control
-A job in which, despite only receiving take-home pay for waiting tables, you are still required to do things like bus tables, mop, or help in the kitchen
-A job that frequently has no or negligible vacation or sick time or health insurance, forcing employees to come into work and serve food while contagiously sick if they want to pay their rent

Gee, could wait staff perhaps have reasons to feel unhappy and mistreated, or like their work is difficult and underappreciated?

And I've never even worked in food service myself; I just know enough about it not to make myself sound like an asshole.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds like most every minimum wage job out there, except you're pulling in a better check.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-05-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
All I'm getting out of your comments is that people with other jobs should be complaining more, not that servers should stop talking about completely valid complaints.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-13 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
... a check that exists purely at the whim of customers and therefore is not guaranteed.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Which is based on averages over a long period with random chance dissapearing.

You don't into maths too good do you.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
What's your RPG Codex handle?

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
lmao I love that you're pulling this out every time someone's an asshole. God bless you dethtoll <3
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-14 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
<3 Glad you like it bb
cassandraoftroy: Chiana from Farscape, an alien with grayscale skin and hair (Default)

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-05-13 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
"Averages over a long period of time" doesn't do much good to a person living paycheck-to-paycheck, when a run of shitty customers can mean the difference between paying their rent or not, regardless of the quality of service they provide.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
A job in which, despite only receiving take-home pay for waiting tables, you are still required to do things like bus tables, mop, or help in the kitchen

That's pretty standard for most jobs, though. Even my nice cushy desk jobs would sometimes require me to do things that weren't in the job description.

Retail especially, I can't remember a single job application I filled out where the job description didn't include the line "and other duties as assigned by the manager/supervisor."

A job in which a busy period may mean not getting a break or other opportunity to eat, while having to serve other people their food with a smile

Again, something common to many jobs, just without the serving food to other people part.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just not sure why you care.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-13 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's something that baffles me too. Don't really get why they're so hung up over this. Unless they're thre thread Op and are mad they're not getting validation.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
That's rich, coming from you in this thread.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-13 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hahahahaha, oh my aren't you cute and fucking edgy you chuffing hypocrite. Go do your homework.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA, oh my god, I'm so glad I came back to see you calling me edgy. Aren't you the hypocrite today.
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Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-05-14 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't even know what those words mean.
cassandraoftroy: Chiana from Farscape, an alien with grayscale skin and hair (Default)

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-05-13 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
That's pretty standard for most jobs, though. Even my nice cushy desk jobs would sometimes require me to do things that weren't in the job description.

Except those other jobs are paying you for doing those things. In most parts of the US, the legal minimum wage for tipped servers is $2.13 an hour, with the expectation that they'll work their way back up to "real" minimum wage in tips. That $2.13 pretty much just covers their payroll tax, so when they're not waiting tables, they're not earning money.

Again, something common to many jobs, just without the serving food to other people part.

That's kind of a big "except," when you're serving and handling hot, delicious-smelling food after not having eaten all day. And those "cushy" jobs you mentioned before are usually a lot better about making sure employees get their legally-mandated breaks.

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
That really, really depends on the job. If you're working as event staff, for example, you might not be able to take a break for hours because you might be trying to fix an issue behind the scenes and you can't just go off to take a break. If you're working an administrative, legal, or accounting job, you might have a document that has to be submitted by a certain date and time no matter what.

Jobs with strict deadlines can be pretty bad as far as taking breaks is concerned.
cassandraoftroy: Chiana from Farscape, an alien with grayscale skin and hair (Default)

Re: Does anyone bitch about their job more than servers?

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-05-13 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, other jobs can also be crappy in some ways. But people in those jobs are not being taunted with other people's food right under their noses, and they're being paid for their time. Being paid is kind of a big deal when you're working.