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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-13 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2688 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2688 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Frozen]


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[Criminal Minds, Elle Greenaway]


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[Utopia]


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[Prison Architect]


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[One Piece]


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[Orphan Black]


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[Craig Ferguson]


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[Sarah Rees Brennan]


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[Knights of Sidonia]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]










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Re: 9/11 culture change?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember the culture before well enough to say, being that I was 11.

But you had a culture that was already rapidly changing, and that has continued changing for reasons unrelated to 9/11 since then, as technology and the Internet have developed and a million other things have gone on. So it's hard for me to imagine that there was this really dramatic overnight change in the culture specifically because of 9/11, and it also doesn't tally with my recollections.

Maybe if you're just talking about security and foreign policy, but even then, it was never an entire change.
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Re: 9/11 culture change?

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not the first person to mention the internet getting big around the same time, and I think there's a lot of merit to that. I agree, from what I know, that that's had a larger effect on the overall culture.
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Re: 9/11 culture change?

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-05-14 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
The actual change itself wasn't "overnight" but events that led to the changes over the decade or so to come were set in place virtually overnight, yes.

The internet had been around loooooong before 9/11; there are many different ways the introduction of those technologies could have changed society, but the War on Terror dramatically influenced the changes that did take place.

Re: 9/11 culture change?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
The internet had been around loooooong before 9/11; there are many different ways the introduction of those technologies could have changed society, but the War on Terror dramatically influenced the changes that did take place.

I'm not sure what you mean / kind of skeptical about this - do you mind expanding?
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Re: 9/11 culture change?

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-05-14 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Which part? About the internet being around long before 9/11 or about how the War on Terror influenced the development of/attitudes toward/legislation of internet-related technologies?

Would you say that it hasn't?

Re: 9/11 culture change?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
For clarity, this was the part I was asking about: about how the War on Terror influenced the development of/attitudes toward/legislation of internet-related technologies?

And "legislation of" I will definitely grant you but for the rest of it? I don't see it, honestly. How has 9/11 and War On Terror determined the way in which ordinary people use Internet technology or their attitudes towards it?
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Re: 9/11 culture change?

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-05-14 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, for starters, legislation (The Patriot Act -> The Department of Homeland Security -> direct results of 9/11) influences what technologies are permitted to be of available use to the general public, which sure does determine how they "use" it - whether they get to at all. And in the climate surrounding the War on Terror, the "attitude" of the public toward controls on the freedom of information versus security changed drastically. Without public support for these limitations, they don't pass. They did. There was far more public support for privacy/freedom of information online before 9/11, before the rationalization that "it could be used for terrorist activities" was popularized.