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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-14 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2689 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2689 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree and wish I didn't. I was so happy at the start of new Who.

Perhaps it's inevitable with all writers who stay too long. They start repeating the same tricks, and you see behind the magic, which leads to disappointment.

For me, RJD mostly left a bad taste behind him because of the things he said after killing Ianto (that the fans only liked Ianto because he was pretty, comparing it to SPN which I don't even watch, then making crude sexual remarks online about the actor when it was obvious to everyone else that he was likely to struggle to get another lead after his first major role had a major gay storyline, sadly still true, etc) but that's another story.

I'd have preferred RJD to just bow out with dignity, but I suppose that was never going to happen.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention him saying that the people who were upset about Ianto's death were just "hysterical women" (don't get me wrong, there were definitely some OTT reactions, but that was uncalled for). Yeah, plenty of people were annoyed with RTD after all that. The RTD-stans seem to have come back in force since Moffat too over DW.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
He was so uncalled for in the aftermath after Ianto. At the time, he'd just been commissioned to do Torchwood in America, as far as I recall, and I think his head had blown up to Tardis-interior proportions, and he just decided to blow a huge raspberry to the UK fans because he was God's gift to writers.

I really enjoyed some of his earlier work like Second Coming, QaF, and even the controversial Bob & Rose. If I heard he'd written something now, I'd avoid it.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-18 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"The RTD-stans seem to have come back in force since Moffat too over DW"

The sad part is that 9 times out of 10 the RTD stans are also Tenth Doctor and Ten/Rose stans still bitter that DW isn't just about their beloved Tenth Doctor and his "romance" with Rose. I laughed so hard during the 50th episode when it turned out Rose wasn't Rose at all and the fans raged all over Tumblr. I think if that hadn't had happened they would have stayed away but oh no, Moffat dared to trifle with them *eye roll*

(Anonymous) 2014-05-21 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS! There's a fair bit of valid criticism to be made of Moffat, that's definitely true, but there's valid criticism to be made of RTD too, and I've seen too much Moffat criticism that ends with comments that not only completely whitewash RTD and ignore the problematic parts of his run, but also indicate extreme bitterness over Moffat not sharing RTD's painfully obvious Rose-boner. Gosh, Moffat ships the Doctor with the spunky blonde character he created, not the spunky blonde character his predecessor created to ship with the Doctor, what a jerk!

And yeah, as you say, Ten/Rose fans threw a giant tantrum when the 50th anniversary special wasn't 'The Ten and Rose movie, guest-starring Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman'. And you'd ask them 'well, what did you expect?' only to realize that yes, some of them honestly expected and felt entitled to a cinematic feature (that was supposed to be about celebrating fifty years of Doctors and companions) totally dedicated to their OTP.