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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-14 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2689 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2689 ⌋

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-05-14 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you know, they probably care as much about the politics of the myth of the Alamo as we care about a lot of the stuff that happened in the 1400s. For them, it's basically "no1curr, this happened a long time ago and has nothing to do with our lives anymore so lets just have some lulz."

In-universe, I mean. I dunno about the actual writers' intent, which was probably more superficial.
Edited 2014-05-14 23:39 (UTC)
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-05-14 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
The writers' intent probably was just "The Alamo was cool." DS9 is all shoving in bits of 20th century culture, especially American culture, that the writers like. Casablanca episode, baseball episode, science fiction episode, Frank Sinatra episodes, Roswell episode. Also James Bond episode which is kinda British I guess.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-05-15 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I secretly really loved all that pop culture stuff, even though it always made me wonder "why the 20th century? Why not the 21st or the 22nd? The 21st was the one with all the atomic wars and kangaroo courts and first contact with Vulcans and stuff..."

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW; I want more Post-Atomic Horror holonovels, damnit! (but I did love the Bond episode, and also the Sherlock Holmes stuff from TNG)
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-05-15 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
I want to read a real Dixon Hill novel. :(
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-05-15 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my love for it is not even secret (probably because I like all the cultural touchstones already anyway). And... I don't know, I guess I generally tend to like series where the creators aren't afraid to air out their weird obsessions and loves, you know? I can relate to that.

It would also be really interesting to see them coming up with weird 21st century pop culture, though! We did get the one episode where they travel back to the prison camps, so I guess that counts.
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[personal profile] skippydelicious 2014-05-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Everything in the 21stC was lost apart from Zefram Cochrane's big flight (and even then...as First Contact showed us), and the 22nd Century has Calamity Archer in it and everyone in Starfleet has taken a solemn vow never to mention him or any of his dipshittery. Jonathan Archer is dead to us.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-05-16 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I pretty much disliked all of those episodes, I am now wondering what this says about me.
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[personal profile] cushlamochree 2014-05-17 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
IT MEANS THAT YOU ARE WRONG

Nah, it probably just means that you don't happen to care about those particular, specific touchstones. I mean, it's not like those are all good episodes - I feel comfortable saying that "Far Beyond the Stars" is excellent, and "Take Me Out To the Holosuite" is fun but the rest aren't classics by any stretch.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-05-17 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah well I do love Far Beyond the Stars but not the other ones. :-P

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
"I dunno about the actual writers' intent, which was probably more superficial."

The way I heard it (admittedly second hand from my father, who was reading a DS9 companion/behind the scenes guide) was that one of the show's executive producers was a huge fan of the Alamo history, and so the writers would throw in a reference to the Alamo when they wanted to get a story approved. So their intent was actually to be sneaky.

SA

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just looked it up, and one of the writers was actually the one obsessed with the Alamo, so he slipped it in for fun and then the other writers just ran with it.

Sounds about right, really; if it had been me, there probably would have been French Revolution references galore.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
That is a good explanation that I like.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
They shall be crushed in the impending apocalypse, which has been set in motion by events on this very page.