[ SECRET POST #2691 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2691 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Akuma Kyoushi]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's really amazing how in such a big fandom two people could have such opposite experiences. It's been a while since I've been in the DA fandom, but I remember everyone loving Anders to an almost obsessive degree, trying to airbrush and/or excuse/support all his flaws and fuckups (like blowing up the church, manipulating Hawke into doing his dirty work, supporting giving Fenris to Danarius, making really inappropriate comments about Aveline and her dead husband's sex life, etc.). He was woobiefied to such an extent that I stopped being involved in fandom because I couldn't deal with all that BS. And I say as someone whose really likes the character (I hate what he does, but he's really interesting).

[ziltoidianrapture]

Oh yeah, Anders definitely made some fucked up things during DA 2. There's no going around that.

But it seems like every fic I've read goes on and on about his manifesto (Which I didn't encounter in the game, btw. I guess it's a thing that happens if you choose to go with rivalry or rivalmance route? Idk, I haven't had the heart to go through either of those) and how he's always ruining everything and he's the reason why no one in Kirkwall can have nice things etc. And really, I get why people wouldn't like a character who, I don't know, blew up the damn Chantry, but it's not like he was inherently evil. He ran a healing clinic for free and seemed to feel genuinely sorry when he nearly attacked an apostate.

There's a lot of ground between downright villainry and woobification and I don't think it has to be an either or choice, especially with Anders. Dude did a lot of fucked up things, but he also did some good. And the sad thing about all the stupid things he did is that he seemed to genuinely believe that he was doing everything for some greater good. Does it excuse his actions? Nope. Nope, nope, nope. But I think that it makes him interesting.

... I'm willing to admit that most of my umbrage towards all the Anders hate stems from the fact that when I think of Anders, the first thing I remember is his first scene in DA 2.

Wow. Surprise rant in surprising. Also, I nearly wrote umbridge instead of umbrage. I can't comprehend the English language when it's 3 AM.

[(Anonymous)]

iirc pages of his manifesto are hidden around Kirkwall in bookshelves and things like that. It does seem odd that that would be what people focus on, of all things.

I definitely agree that he's a very complex character, and I think the fact that he screws up makes him more interesting. He's not a monster; he has good intentions, which makes his descent all the more heartbreaking. The woobiefication really annoys me though, especially when writers try to remove his accountability for his actions. It's ok to like a character who does horrible things. And I completely agree with what you said about it not being an either/or choice. I wish more people would realize that.