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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-16 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2691 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2691 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think that what bothers me about this secret is how one-sided it is. It's not that I disagree that Robert probably raped Cersei, at least by our definition of rape. But you make it sound so black-and-white, when Cersei was at least as terrible to Robert across the years of their marriage as he was to her. She fucked her brother on the very morning of their wedding. She passed off their bastards as his children. When Robert wanted to bring his daughter Mya to King's Landing, Cersei threatened to have her killed! And in the end, she murdered him. Robert was a drunk, a letch and an asshole, but what did he do to deserve that?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Physically assaulting their clearly mentally unstable son, raping her, not making a FUCK amount of effort in their marriage, being a drunk, hitting her many times more than that ONE time in front of Ned, cheating on her repeatedly with every whore in Westeros, humiliating her in front of everyone and treating her as less than his wife from the first moment they were married.

Robert is one of the most disgusting characters in the books. He didn't keep the peace. He a was a huge chunk of wood blocking a dam that was going to overflow past him anyway (he'd only been King for what? 15 years? but HE IS THE KING IT IS HIS BIRTH RIGHT). He'd not only bed whores, but he'd bed peasants who probably felt like they were incapable of turning down the KING and then charm them to the point where they didn't understand the only person he was capable of loving other than himself was NED

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
You mean when he slapped Joffrey after he disemboweled a cat?

And at least he didn't, you know, order the mass murder of a bunch of infants. That's more horrible than anything Robert ever did.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
HE IS THE KING IT IS HIS BIRTH RIGHT

I spot someone who has no idea what they're talking about...

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Because Cersei did a much better job parenting Joffrey.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-17 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Cersei is a horrible person, raised by an amoral father and Robert was a broken, alcoholic man with rage issues. Their marriage was anything but happy on both sides, no one denies that.

That doesn't absolve either of them from their horrible behavior.
He knew what he was doing, Cersei notes that he often apologized when he sobered. Asking for an annulment would have been a much better solution.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-05-17 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
I admit I don't know much about everything to do with this, but would Cersei ever have given up what power she had as queen? Bastard or not, she wanted her son on the throne after Robert.
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[personal profile] ginainthekingsroad 2014-05-17 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Asking for an annulment would have been a much better solution.

If you think that's a viable solution in Westeros, I'm afraid you've kind of missed the point of a lot of the story. A marriage is a contract, more political than personal; and unhappy arraigned marriages and broken contracts are a huge ongoing theme.

Robert's Rebellion was ostensibly over Aerys's madness, but also over Rhaegar/Lyanna because it was breaking her betrothal to Robert.

And then the whole War of Five Kings indirectly descends from Lysa Tully's bad marriage to Jon Arryn. Lysa and Littlefinger blame the Lannisters for Jon's murder; which incites Ned to investigate Jon's discovery of Cersei/Jaime, and Catelyn to capture Tyrion.

If the culture allowed for easy annulment/divorce, that would strongly affect the political aspect of the marriage, and the alliance of the Houses being joined through heirs. Almost every major conflict traces back to a marriage or a contract of some kind; in my opinion, it's one of the most successful aspects of the series.