[ SECRET POST #2693 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2693 ⌋

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Comments

[intrigueing]

Ow. I'm sorry to hear that, OP. I know what you mean -- Snape was a lot more fun to defend when the rabid extremism wasn't a thing.

I've had a sort of similar experience in Doctor Who fandom, where I dropped back into fandom after a couple of years to find with dismay that some RTD-era fans I thought seemed pretty cool and smart with lots of good criticisms of RTD's issues turned into really creepy blind screechy Moffat-worshippers.

[(Anonymous)]

Or those who could see both the good and the bad in RTD's running of the show turned into rabid Moffat bashers who believe the SJW spiel that Moffat is 'sexist (a point that's a valid one with some of his off - camera remarks at times, though I haven't seen the women of Who turned into vapid sex kittens as the SJW contingent seem to believe Moffat has turned them into), racist, homophobic, transphobic ciscum' who wish death on Moffat (and in some cases the actors). And if anybody tries to even reason with them you are labled as bad as he is and nearly get run out of fandom

[intrigueing]

I've never had quite as much of a problem with general Moffat-bashers because I agree with them very often and the way all his female characters have turned out gives me the creeps, but jesus fuck, there is a contingent of Moffat-bashers that are just completely ludicrously over-the-top hell-bent on interpreting every single minute of every single one of his episodes as white patriarchal heterosexist propaganda.

Like, remember that mini-episode where kid!Clara sees Eleven sitting sadly on a swing and goes up to him to ask him why he's sad? I remember seeing a giant rant on tumblr screeching about how Moffat was "teaching little girls that their purpose in life is to comfort males." Not, say, teaching them that (*gasp!*) empathy and showing concern for other people is a good thing. Like...I dunno what goes through people's heads sometimes.

[(Anonymous)]

*facepalm* Yep, I've encountered those type of Moffat-bashers. That's part of why I don't participate in fandom discussion anymore (and likely won't until Moffat leaves, if only because maybe that SJW contingent that likes to interpret everything like you just described will go away with him.)

[(Anonymous)]

God, this exactly. Moffat has his flaws, both as a storyteller and as a human being, but I am so tired of seeing people complain about his treatment of the Doctor and his companions (such as the Doctor making decisions for others against their will) and acting as though RTD or any of the previous showrunners would never ever dream of doing so. They complain about him 'objectifying women' and ignore that RTD turned a likeable one-episode female character into an actual, literal sex object.