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⌈ Secret Post #2693 ⌋

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Re: CA:TWS

[kaijinscendre]

Most of the fics I have seen for pre-serum Steve/Bucky have not been very easy? They all mostly deal with how much secrecy and how dangerous it is.

I love Bucky with any kind of hair I can get him with. D:

Re: CA:TWS

[neonlovechicken]

To be fair I have also read fics that deal with it tastefully and realistically, one of my fav fics ever is the one called '5 times Steve kissed Bucky and one time Bucky kissed Steve', but the fact is that they are both very much in love, but it's super unbalanced and a fact to be freaked out about, not a happy thing. In this one this 'unnatural yearning' is treated like something to be scared of and that must at all costs avoided, and I think it hits home more than on fics where 'they know it's wrong, but their love will save them'.

I think the fear and the knowledge of doing something that is 'unnatural and wrong' is too downplayed, considering it's the 30s.

I LOVE BUCKY PERIOD. <3

Re: CA:TWS

[kaijinscendre]

Hrm. What do you mean by unbalanced?

Re: CA:TWS

[neonlovechicken]

I don't know if it's just lazy writing in the movie, but they come across as codependent but not friends in Cap 1. Do I make sense?

Bucky is the one that got it all, he's beautiful, strong and clever and women fall on him. Steve is... pre-serum Steve. He doesn't come across as the guy who envies Bucky his good luck, but pre-serum Steve/Bucky scenes in the movie do not make me think of potential couple fodder... there's a whole lot of Bucky being super protective and Steve looking a bit irritated by it IMO. It's more of a caretaker/child kind of relationship IMO.

Re: CA:TWS

[kaijinscendre]

Hrm. I guess I didn't see it like that. If anything, it may have been more of a brother/older brother relationship. But even then, who the big brother for me changes by what you are measuring. Steve seems to be older when it comes to psychological (and emotional to a degree) stuff while Bucky seems to be older when it comes to physicality.

It also doesn't help I dislike the movie and have only seen most of those scenes once. Plus when I think of codependent I think of the Winchester brothers and Steve/Bucky ain't got nothing on them.

Re: CA:TWS

[neonlovechicken]

Plus when I think of codependent I think of the Winchester brothers and Steve/Bucky ain't got nothing on them.
OMG no. But Sam/Dean is a whole another level beyond codependency... it's unrealistic at this point.

Yeah, bro/bro also works for me...

I've rewatched the movie lately and I'm extremely disappointed in the pre-serum Bucky/Steve scenes... they just did not make time for them, at all. I'm now thinking it could have been a choice, not to show too much of Bucky, because if there's one thing that works is that in Cap 1 Bucky is indeed a super enigmatic character. You CAN see (mostly SS's acting skills but also a directing choice) how much he keeps inside.

But at the same time his background is practically nothing. We just know he's around to throw girls at Steve and to extract him from allies, but yes, that's it.

I'm probably SUPER bitter because they say goodbye to each other in such an anticlimatic way that I was like, 'so that's... that's it? His best friend is going to war and probably to death and that's it?'. So maybe Steve is not too overwhelmed by feelings because he really thinks he's going to make it and join Bucky, but damn, they could have said like 3 words more to each other... the ONE thing I adore of that scene though is the FANTASTIC 'Farewell to Bucky''s song composed by Alan Silvestri that plays in the background and makes me cry only by being there...

PS: also, I'm so going to bed now, I'll catch up tomorrow. :D

Re: CA:TWS

[kaijinscendre]

Good night!

Re: CA:TWS

[kallanda_lee]

I...dunno. One of my best friends is beautiful (literal beauty pageant contestant), really smart and used to get all the boys when she was in the dating scene - I'm definitely the bland friend next to her.

Not that I'm romantically involved with her, but I'm just saying these friendships can exist without being codependent or imbalanced. Honestly only thing that would kill it is jealousy or resentment from the inside.

Re: CA:TWS

[neonlovechicken]

It's not just the difference in attractiveness, that wouldn't have to be an issue in a friendship! It's more the way they interact in Cap 1, where Bucky comes across IMO as an asshole most of the time. But I think that's because we aren't given enough scenes between the two of them, like, say, Bucky and Steve together alone somewhere, talking about whatever that isn't girls and the war. I think that movie underdeveloped their relationship way too much, and only giving us the glimpses we need to understand the characters ended up making their relationship looking only functional and not emotional.

And btw, I LOVE SS's face around serum!Steve... he looks like he's proud and awkward and terrified and resentful all at the same time, and in the conversation at the bar you can def see how they love each other. I wish they had shaped them a bit more in the pre-war part of their life.

I think they'll give us more in Cap 3 though, because there's no way they are going to make a movie about Cap finding Bucky without fleshing Bucky out a little more?