[ SECRET POST #2696 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2696 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I started to write up a thoughtful reply about how hard it would be for either of them to accurately evaluate the present without a thorough understanding of the technology we depend on, and then I started wondering how one would go about explaining modern media to Thoreau, and then I started wondering whether he would respond to the internet by throwing his computer out the window or becoming enthralled by cat videos.

Anyway.

How Orwellian any modern state is depends on what you consider "Orwellian". My dictionary isn't giving anything more precise than 'to do with Orwell or Orwell's works', and that could be anything from lots of surveillance (which more than a few places have!) to pigs taking over a farm and ordering political assassinations, which... not so much.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It's really the combination of Orwellian with fascist that bugs me, given his famous hatred of the word fascism. (For whatever reason, folks are seldom content with referencing an Orwellian state--they just have to call it a fascist Orwellian state.)

other random anon :)

[(Anonymous)]

That's probably because he criticised more than one type of state. 1984 is mostly criticising totalitarianism/fascism, while Animal Farm is about communism. So it does make sense to specify.

And to be honest, I do feel like the Western world is sliding towards totalitarian structures at a frightening speed: omnipresent NSA (and to a lesser degree other) surveillance, dumb, uniform mass media, a high degree (and acceptance) of violence, widespread social misery, wars that have much more to do with distracting the population from said misery than the propaganda reasons of that war, state-sanctioned torture... the list goes on.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh God, please, let's not start sympathizing with Nazis here Dx

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

WORD UP.