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fandomsecrets2014-05-23 07:13 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2014-05-23 07:13 pm
[ SECRET POST #2698 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2698 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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04. http://i.imgur.com/x1ReEav.png
[Curvy; linked for porn, illustrated]
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05. http://i.imgur.com/CEL6gFP.jpg
[linked for gore and stuff]
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06. [SPOILERS for Captain America: The Winter Soldier]
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07. [SPOILERS for Godzilla 2014]
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08. [SPOILERS for Wreck-it Ralph]
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09. [WARNING for rape]
http://i.imgur.com/uGSGQZF.jpg
[Starfighter, porn from it]
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10. [WARNING for rape]
[Daughter of Smoke and Bone]
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #385.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (I don't think this really counts) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: Homestuck shipping
First of all, troll romance is kind of the romance version of Blue and Orange Morality. It's kind of impossible to explain because their attractions and desires don't really line up with ours. Their biology is different. What's healthy and dysfunctional for them isn't what would be the same for humans.
Additionally, the best reference to use is the webcomic itself. Here is where AH introduces the concept of troll romance, and the page right after is where he explains it. The next 7 or 8 pages go into each quadrant in some detail and talk a little bit about how they interact.
Here's my perspective, at least, on answering your questions:
1. It's romantic. They are all romantic, as trolls experience romance. Comparing moirallegiance to a very close platonic human friendship sort of works because it's the closest thing we have to
a relationship like that. But for the trolls, it IS romantic. Headcanons vary on how much physical contact is involved (anything from hand-holding to cuddling to non-makeout-y-kissing) but it's not a sexual relationship.
Sometimes people jokingly call their close friends "moirails"; I and my best friend do this. But when we use it that way we mean it in a strictly platonic sense. Moirails trust each other deeply, keep each other in check, and help each other with their romantic quadrants, and some of those relationship qualities translate into a human relationship without the romance.
2. I think when they mean "monogamous", they mean that they're usually closed relationships. You only have one moirail, one matesprit, and one kismesis. If you had a kismesis, and then had hate!sex with someone else, you'd be cheating on your kismesis (but not on your matesprit). So in a sense trolls aren't monogamous because a troll with filled quadrants has two sexual partners, but in completely different contexts. Auspisticism is weird and not really well-explained here. Your auspistice is, I think, the troll you're in a non-romantic hateful/rival relationship with with a third troll mediating. I'm not sure if that third troll is also considered to have that quadrant "filled". I would say possibly, though, like maybe which role you're likely to play in this relationship is dependent on your personality? And it's not technically monogamous but it possible to cheat on your auspistice/mediator/mediatee/whatever. Yeah, this is the hardest one to understand for sure.
3. They're all romantic, but only flushed (matespritship) and caliginous (kismesissitude) relationships are sexual.
4. It's romantic in a totally different sense than we imagine it. (Most) trolls don't have "love!sex" either, the positive end of their emotional spectrum is said to be pity. (However their are canon examples, or at least one example, of trolls experiencing love. Also, it's heavily implied that SPOILERS
SPOILERS - trolls are supposed to have been capable of having loving relationships more like ours, but their universe got kind of fucked up.
/spoilers
Also, it's not dysfunctional to them. Their hateful, rivalry-driven, romantic/sexual relationship is totally normal and healthy to them.