[ SECRET POST #324 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #324 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 09 pages, 210 secrets from Secret Submission Post #047.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, November 26th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[parron.livejournal.com]

....I wouldn't say she's absolutely beautiful in those icons--over saturation much? o___o Oy.

Anyway. Time for some tl;dr. I don't like Cameron. I also don't ship anyone in House, so, let's just get that clear off the bat. The reason I don't like her is this: She is seriously flawed. So is everyone in House, as you pointed out. The difference is, Foreman knows he's an asshole, and feels badly about it to a degree, and tries to change himself. House is the biggest asshole known to man, but no one actually likes him (except Wilson, and even then half the time...). House also doesn't like himself. And so on. The other characters, ridiculously flawed as they are all realize their flaws and in some cases, try to change them or at least feel guilty about them (i.e: House and his phantom pains).

Cameron does NOT realize she has flaws, or not to the degree that she should. For example, she does know that she's bad at breaking bad news to patients. However, she doesn't do anything about it--she ridiculously hides information from one (the cancer girl in Acceptance), and relies on Wilson in another episode (Maternity). Her relationship with House passed the line from "crush" to "disturbing" a long time ago, starting with "Love Hurts." Her kindness is fairly conditional -- she's downright petty with Chase and Foreman at times (I'm thinking especially of Lines in the Sand, where she outright mocks Chase's father issues with no prompting/reason). Yet she's presented to us as "nice" and "the kindest cottage" and other BS. Also, some of the stuff she gets away with just pisses me off--she more than once refuses to work just because she has Moral Qualms or because she has something else she wants to do--like sulk about the patient who was omg mean to babies, or refuse to help another patient because she's too busy bonding with a girl who has cancer but doesn't know because Cameron won't tell her. She also meddles with House to a ridiculous extent, the carpet issues in Lines in the Sand coming to mind first (honestly, I don't understand how she hasn't been fired for those things, other than the fact that House himself also still has a job).

I don't mind flawed characters. I do mind flawed characters that think their flaws are strengths and never learn or change or grow or even just accept the fact that they are assholes and not omg perfect. Cameron is just that--a ridiculously flawed character whose flaws are paraded to us as signs that we should adore her.

EDIT: spelling lolz.

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

It's fine that you dislike Cameron, but just like enfeebledchi, you're presenting your subjective opinions about Cameron as facts about her character.

Cameron is just that--a ridiculously flawed character whose flaws are paraded to us as signs that we should adore her.

You may see this as a fact, but I have never thought that Cameron's emotional neediness, self-righteousness, inconsistent ideals, and difficulty having healthy relationships with, um, anybody (even her patients) were "paraded to us as signs that we should adore her." To me, they seemed to be flaws as clear as Chase's authority issues and House's cruelty.

It's true that other shows often present us with a character like Cameron to be the emotional and moral "heart" of the show, but that's no reason to assume that House, a show notorious for intentionally flawed character, intends to do the same thing with Cameron.

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For example, she does know that she's bad at breaking bad news to patients. However, she doesn't do anything about it...

Your examples are both drawn for the first or early second season. Cameron seems to have overcome this particular flaw by the middle of the third season at the latest, where she has no problem telling a terminal patient that he has the same type of cancer as her patient in "Acceptance." I thought that was intended to show us that she had dealt with that particular issue.

Personally, I love Cameron; I think the particular nature of her trouble relating to people is very interesting and I love seeing the moments when she manages to break through it and be sane, competent, and together. I also think the show treats her fairly. For example, sure, she blackmails House into a date because she's desperate to have a Happy Fun Healing Relationship, but she doesn't get rewarded for it. It does not turn out the way she wants, and she winds up miserable and humiliated.

But not everyone is going to like her. I know that. I just dislike the double standard that's often applied to her, sometimes because of gender issues, sometimes, more understandably, because of bad experiences in other fandoms ("oh, no, not another sweet and kind female who turns out to be the Heart Of The Show...wait, and this one's a total bitch, too! Grrr!"), and sometimes for shipping reasons (Cameron seems to be rather furiously reviled by both House/Wilson and House/Cuddy fans).