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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-02 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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[The Cinema Snob]

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[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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[Xavier Dolan]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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[K-pop]










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(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ami is the goodie two shoes Mary Sue? I'd peg Usagi more for the Mary Sue. Ami tends to come across as a know-it-all who sacrifices her free time and social life for the sake of her grades. She's the stick-in-the-mud.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, I'd say Usagi doesn't come close to Mary-Sue. Too many people get annoyed with her and call her on her shit. She's never portrayed as perfect. She's lazy and a bit selfish and awesome.

I'd say...maybe Minako? But even then, I think she resented it.
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[personal profile] ozaline 2014-06-02 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Both Minako and Usagi are based on the writer (same family dynamic, similar personality, and interests), seeing as Minako had her own comic before Sailor Mooon.

So depending on your idea of Mary Sue... yeah either of them could be the self insert part.

But I think all the characters are fairly balanced. Especially in the manga.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
She's still able to save the world from certain destruction no matter what, and save her friends who were supposedly already erased forever.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-02 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Anon who replied below you reiterating that in context, being from a Japanese series, "know-it-all who sacrifices her free time and social life for the sake of her grades" is not seen as being too stick-in-the-mud, it's an acceptable, ideal (i.e. Mary Sue) way of being "flawed."

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. It's not really a negative flaw that affects them in a way that truly matters and is more endearing than anything else.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Except it kind of is shown as a flaw in the series. It nearly gets her brainwashed, and there is an entire miniature arc where she realizes that, maybe, sacrificing all her free time for the sake of her grades isn't good. Her friends are constantly annoyed at her studying, both in the anime and the manga. It's the same way that Usagi challenges the idea of purity = no sex and not being allowed a sexuality. Usagi very obviously has a sex life with Mamoru, despite being shown as pure and innocent.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
This. Not to mention, in the manga, she's shown as often feeling left out because of how seriously she takes her studies--to the point that an enemy feeds on her desperation to be loved by ANYONE. It is definitely shown as a flaw at that point.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's shown as a flaw, but it's a flaw that makes the audience like her more. We're not her friends who have to deal with her studying affecting her friendship with us. From the target audience's perspective, she's right to put her studies first and extra points to her for keeping at it even though it annoys her friends.