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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-02 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2708 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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04.
[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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[Xavier Dolan]


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07.
[Pacific Rim]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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12.
[K-pop]










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(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
"...not to be mindlessly driven by blind instinct or 'biological urges' that are supposedly uncontrollable/inevitable (I disagree with that, but the bulk of atheists think like this, because they do see humanity as little more than intelligent but still instinct-driven creatures, which is incorrect)."

You are very much misrepresenting the atheist PoV, and I'm kind of afraid to know why.

It's not that "urges," as you say, are uncontrollable or inevitable. It's that they inform some of what they do; it's that they are part of our history. Our intelligence allows us to overcome those urges and to do things that are contrary to our instincts, and that's a beautiful and amazing thing.

But very few atheists would suggest that homosexuality is an urge that needs to be overcome, because there is no logical reason for someone to do so. Love is no less beautiful than intelligence.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that "urges," as you say, are uncontrollable or inevitable.

*deep breath*

I am not saying that. I am saying that that seems to be generally accepted view of most, and if the responses in this thread are any indication, that is the accepted view of most here. I disagree with this. This is what I disagree with. Is that clear?

It's that they inform some of what they do; it's that they are part of our history. Our intelligence allows us to overcome those urges and to do things that are contrary to our instincts.

That's...not quite what I'm saying, but close. I wouldn't label such things as "urges" but stray/odd thoughts, as I replied to diet_poison. I do not believe, as I responded to d_p, that these thoughts/choices are rooted in biology or instinct. If that makes things clear as mud.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-03 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I guess the "as you say" made that a poorly worded sentence. I didn't think that you believed that; I was responding to the notion that atheists believe that.

"That's...not quite what I'm saying, but close."

No. It's what many atheists think.