[ SECRET POST #2708 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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04.
[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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[Xavier Dolan]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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[K-pop]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

You know I never realized before, but you're the third person who has said homosexuality is a choice but actually does have homosexual urges they choose not to act on.

I suppose to a bisexual, homosexuality might seem like an optional thing.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

you're the third person who has said homosexuality is a choice but actually does have homosexual urges they choose not to act on

...and you know this because how? I assure you I am heterosexual. And actually haven't ever had "homosexual urges" or even any stray/odd thoughts in that direction. But kudos to you, for trying to troll me and get an irate response. It didn't work, I'm sorry to say. Your statement above is just as ridiculous as everyone in this thread is saying my beliefs are.

[(Anonymous)]

Congratulations, you now know how homosexuality works, but in reverse. The bible also says women are to learn in silence and have no authority over men. So, you must hate female police officers and teachers and female government officials.

[a_potato]

You haven't had any homosexual urges. You haven't had any stray/odd thoughts in that direction.

Imagine forcing yourself to be homosexual. Imagine taking a member of the same sex as your spouse. Imagine having sex with them. Imagine telling yourself that you love them. Imagine raising children with them.

Now imagine that you haven't had any heterosexual urges. Imagine that you haven't had any stray/odd thoughts in that direction.

Here's the trouble: you seem to define "urges" as everything that you don't like, or that you find unpalatable. But you still have urges. You still have a set of preferences. You still have a disposition. There is nothing wrong with that. And if you think that there is, then please, by all means, become an ascetic and embrace celibacy. But something tells me that you aren't willing to go that far, because you only have a problem with the way our bodies work when it comes to people who don't fit into a certain mold.

Do not mistake me. I do not say this to "jump on you." I do not say this to disrespect you, or to insult you. I say this because I am being honest, in the same way that you have been honest. I say this because I don't see the benefit in not saying it.

[(Anonymous)]

Not the OP, and actually bisexual, but in some respects I agree with the idea that one has free will and choices.

I think that we have urges and desires that we can choose to follow or not. It may be difficult to do, but not impossible. So, a straight person can be with a person of the same sex if they may the choice to and the same with gay people being with the opposite sex.

This is proven fact, many people do it, have done it and will do it and its done because they choose to do so. Sometimes they do it because they feel the alternative is too difficult or risky, yet the choice is theirs to make, no matter how difficult.

The choice is there for everyone to make. Is one willing to live contrary to their sexual preference because of societal pressure or religious beliefs? Whether they are or are not then they HAVE still chosen.

[(Anonymous)]

Whether they are or are not then they HAVE still chosen<

How are people not getting that being attracted to the same sex and acting on that attraction ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS? OP of this thread is saying that sexuality is a choice but its not. I didn't choose to feel attraction to women, I can't decide to suddenly find men attractive. It doesn't work that way. I have a friend who is attracted to men but chooses to date women whom he feels no attraction for because of the backwards fucked up beliefs of his parents. He is miserable, he hates his life and I honestly don't think he'll make it to 30 if he continues down this path because it's killing him. YES he is excercising his "free will" by choosing to date women for the sake of his parents but to imply that he has any choice in the matter of not feeling any attraction for them is insulting and ridiculous.

You have a choice on whether or not you actively live your life being true to yourself but that doesn't erase what you feel in the first place. I think maybe as a bisexual you are getting confused because you are attracted to both you obviously have the option to pursue a relationship with either gender and can therefore choose to be in a hetero relationship. The point it though you still are attracted to both genders and you can't choose to turn that off. You don't choose who you're attracted to. If they did OP could decide to be gay for a month, decide to be attracted to the same sex.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for addressing this. It seems like so many people these days don't recognise this :/

[diet_poison]

like anon above me said, attraction =/= action

and also, the entire damn point is that people shouldn't HAVE to choose between their basic nature and society's standards when it comes to love.

I could choose to marry a woman and raise a family with her if I wanted to, but it would leave me fundamentally unfulfilled because I do not experience sexual attraction to women.

[a_potato]

Yes, people can and do make the choice not to act on their attraction, and to take partners who fall outside the scope of their orientation. But that does not make either attraction or orientation a choice.

The reason I laid out the thought experiment that I did is because I was trying to get anon to step outside of her/himself and understand the nature of what s/he's claiming. S/he's not merely saying what you have said; s/he's saying that urges, preferences, and dispositions are all a matter of choice. S/he would say, for example, that you chose to be bisexual. And whether you choose to take partners of both genders over the course of your lifetime or instead decide to have relationships only with members of a single gender, I think you can probably agree that that's bullshit.

It's very simple: you can choose to be with someone whom you do not desire. You cannot choose to desire them. If the latter were true, then there would have been no need for this conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

Look, no, you are not heterosexual, not according to what you keep saying. You choose not to be attracted to a person of the same gender. Sexualities do not exist as a concept if they are 100% a lifestyle choice. So you are not "anything"sexual, you choose whom to be attracted to.

[(Anonymous)]

So you think the experience of gay people is exactly like yours, except they had a "thought" at some point?

I agree.