[ SECRET POST #2713 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2713 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Tangentially related but I have to say that I really hate dubcon as a tag. I mean it can mean anything from one party did not say yes the three asked time to full on rape. It is so useless as a warning or even a note of content

/end rant

[(Anonymous)]

That's why you also read the summary.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

What if the summary is some vague shit? It seems like half the fic writers out there think the summary section is playground to practice their pithy one-liners rather than a place to provide info.

[(Anonymous)]

different DA

Oh no! I just realized that's what I've been doing this whole time. :( It's because I'm bad at summaries, though. I'll try to do better in the future. Sorry, anon. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Try doing the descriptive | helpful summary types, like so:

[fancy words or maybe a non-descriptive quote that sounds cool]

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[short description of the fic]

I personally find that those have a good balance between the fun and the informative.

[(Anonymous)]

Summaries like that also help me filter out the shitty writers or the writers whose prose style will give me indigestion, and pick up ones that write in a way that I can tolerate.

[(Anonymous)]

If it is the summary why bother putting it in the tags? It is to vage to search on and adds nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Well, having it listed in the tags means that readers can more easily exclude dubcon from their searches, if they don't want to read fic that includes issues of consent. That alone makes the dubcon tag useful, imo.

[(Anonymous)]

1) Not everyone writes a summary.

2) Of those who put something in the summary field, many (most?) just quote a few lines from the fic.

3) When the author does write a proper summary, she's not necessarily going to include info that would explain her use of the dubcon tag, especially if the dubious consent is a relatively small part of a long fic.

[(Anonymous)]

#NotAllWriters

[(Anonymous)]

#Yesallwomen

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

THEN DON'T READ FICS WITH VAGUE SUMMARIES

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Why do you think I shouldn't read fics with vague summaries? *is confused*

[(Anonymous)]

The only time the term dubcon makes sense to me is when you don't know if the person consented. Like if it's a weird point of view that wouldn't cover it or you're missing that scene in the story.

[(Anonymous)]

Too many bloody people use dubious consent in situations that are clearly, unequivocally, dare I say without any doubt non-consensual at some point. I hate it.

To me, it belongs on stuff like "RP that's not clear as RP until the resolution" or "consenting for reasons other than mad passionate lust which give it a kind of icky undertone", but that's not how it's used, which is why I have started reading it as "consent issues" instead.

[(Anonymous)]

As a reader, I just assume that every dubcon tag means non-con (usually with bonus in-story protestations of "it wasn't actually rape even though I said 'no' and he didn't stop, b/c I'm pretty sure I could've gotten away if I'd really wanted to"). Nine times out of ten, I'm correct in my assumption.

[(Anonymous)]

I warn for dubcon when the character initially protests then changes their mind. Not like "No! Don't!" but like "I'm not sure."