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fandomsecrets2014-06-09 06:46 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2014-06-09 06:46 pm
[ SECRET POST #2715 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2715 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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[Tales of Innocence]
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[Transamerica]
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[Final Fantasy VIII]
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[Interview with the Vampire]
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[Andrew Lloyd Webber]
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[Critical Miss]
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[Great British Menu/Emily Watkins]
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[Mike Malinin, Goo Goo Dolls]
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[Pacific Rim]
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[Star Trek TNG]
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[Homestuck]
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[The Man From Nowhere]
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 058 secrets from Secret Submission Post #388.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: Fic writers and readers – does reality ever trump canon?
It's actually quite hard to knock someone unconscious, from *behind*. Break their nose and the pain can cause them to pass out. But from behind is a different story. Getting whacked hard enough to be knocked out usually = TBI (traumatic brain injury) involving possible fractures, possible *penetrative* fractures; scalp lacerations, internal/external bleeding... So yeah, they should probably go to a hospital and get checked out. They'll definitely have concussion, possibly a rated TBI (mild/moderate/severe).
And it's not as simple as just letting the suspect go. In most cases (US, Canadian, British, most European countries, Aus&NZ, also South Africa and Israel), it first has to be determined if the officer did indeed breach procedural/conduct regs. This involves an internal investigation. The suspect may be held in remand, pending the outcome of that investigation. His/her lawyer would probably seek to have the suspect released, and so needs an external ruling on the matter, so now a judge is involved. Depending on the nature of the suspected crime, and depending on the evidence the police present to the judge, remand may be waived, or upheld. Short version: a suspect in that situation never just walks away.
And onto geekiness (other geekiness, I mean).
REALISM IS AWESOME.
I mean, I like fantasy. Fantasy is my escape, and when I want that escape, I send the bitchy REALISM IS AWESOME part of my brain into the corner for the duration.
But otherwise... Gimme facts, make me understand just enough to know that there.is.so.much.MOAR and I'll go Google it. I am a total geek over realistically written fiction.
And then my own writing process involves oodles of lovely research time. I'll look something up for fun and one little fact will jump out and suggest a whole story (or else just a couple of characters having an interesting discussion about it). I'd say that a full third of my writing time is taken up in research.
Which... kinda makes writing fantasy HARD. I feel like I'm not doing my homework :P
Re: Fic writers and readers – does reality ever trump canon?
Re: Fic writers and readers – does reality ever trump canon?
(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 01:48 am (UTC)(link)It's actually quite hard to knock someone unconscious... concussion, possibly a rated TBI - yes, exactly, and, yet almost every show with some kind of violence has someone getting hit in the head (sometimes multiple times over the life of a show) and never having any real ill effects.
I was actually thinking of either the prosecution declining to prosecute or the charges being dismissed because rights were violated during the interrogation and so anything learned from the interrogation is thrown out when I wrote 'let go'. I oversimplified, sorry. I just think there is a fair amount of police misconduct in procedurals that never seems to have any legal consequences (it's probably realistic that some of it wouldn't, but all of it?).
Re: Fic writers and readers – does reality ever trump canon?
And yes, the entire case can be thrown out even before trial, or a procedural/conduct violation can result in a judge dismissing the case. But usually if there are proc/conduct violation allegations, they're investigated separate from the trial. The suspect's trial would be adjourned pending. Then the outcome of the investigation would be made known to all parties. Either the defense would demand a mistrial or the prosecuting attorneys would announce withdrawal of charges (this would definitely result in the defense seeking damages), and also, the judge may just gavel on the whole thing independently (that's always the judge's right).
I often wish that Law&Order fans had paid attention to those Trial Part numbers, and had actually looked them up. Perhaps their fic would've been better—Well, one can only hope.
Re: Fic writers and readers – does reality ever trump canon?
(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)That said, all my head injuries have made me actually more sympathetic to the way they're portrayed in fiction. If my life followed some of those writer's guides, I'd be 'unrealistic' so I don't really care. It's a dramatic plot device that's been around since radio, so I don't begrudge fic writers for using it.