[ SECRET POST #2716 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2716 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[rubbertea]

i feel the same way about a lot of actors (including the one in my icon). the magic only happens if you have the complete recipe (good script, good directing, good actor, good editing) and finding it is hard, even for very talented actors. look at bryan cranston or michael emerson. if it wasn't for malcolm in the middle and lost, respectively, they'd still be nobodies. bryan cranston found it a second time with breaking bad, and while it's a testament to his talent, he said himself that he was very lucky.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. That's one of the things that keeps the racist and sexist structures around casting in place, and also sinks the careers of a lot of child actors before they can really grow into their talent.

Assume that you have a 5% chance of getting lucky with a given role, where it's in something really good that people like, that showcases you well. And now assume that you have to get lucky twice to have a lasting career. Already the odds aren't good. Now assume that, as a child actor, you have to hit those two roles within specific, narrow timeframes. Or, as a non-white-guy actor, that you're less likely--even 10% less likely--to even have a shot at those roles. The chances of a great career have just dropped from bad to abysmal.

It doesn't take a conspiracy of systematic oppression to keep these structures in place; just a little bit of unthinking prejudice, a little stupidity, and the already-punishing mathematics of showbiz become impossible to survive.

[(Anonymous)]

the already-punishing mathematics of showbiz...that you made up!

Look, your original point was good, but the fake math didn't help it at all. Worse, it devalued it because then I'm left to wonder a.) if you made anything else up and b.) how much you really know what you're talking about.

If you want to be persuasive/help an argument, don't use made up "facts."

[(Anonymous)]

Michael Emerson is great on Person of Interest, too. There are a lot of actors from Lost that were able to shine in their roles and I wish they'd had luck as good as Emerson with their later projects (Terry O'Quinn in particular)

[rubbertea]

oh, yeah, i love him on poi! i talked about lost because it's the role that made him famous, but i absolutely love him and i enjoy his performance in everything he does.
evangeline lilly has desolation of smaug, which made her even more famous, but the others don't seem to have had that kind of success. every show that had a lost alumni as a main cast member was cancelled, except poi. v, revolution, intelligence, alcatraz, 666 park avenue... it's like they're cursed or something.