[ SECRET POST #2718 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2718 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Might be another 12 am day. Response time will be slow, sorry.

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Comments

[fscom]

11. http://i.imgur.com/cdMUYzc.png

[(Anonymous)]

... wow, I thought sporkers telling thirteen year olds they'd made their goldfish commit suicide were bad back in the day (and people being that harsh was rare). This is way more literal and hurtful. O_o

I mean, I'm all for correcting people in reviews, but isn't that a little much?

[nyxelestia]

Most people seem to think correcting people in reviews is too much.

[rubbertea]

it's funny how the same people who keep using criticism as a pretext to bully other people get furious and offended when they're the ones being criticized. hypocrites.

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhhh... I think you're misreading OP's point. Traditional sporking places one in the position of the robots on MST3K: just a snarky bastard taking some cheap shots for one's own entertainment, and fuck it, we're all having a good time here. SJ-based sporking, however, places one in a position of MORAL SUPERIORITY. You don't see how that will cause more trouble, even factoring out the craziness that is Tumblr SJW culture?

[iceyred]

There are communities telling people (many of whom are in their early teens) to kill themselves over fucking fanfic?

Now I want to jab somebody's eye out with a spork. Goddammit Internet.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the actual comms that are made for the purpose of just straight up sporking don't. Actually, iirc, most if not all the main ones actually have the rules set up as "Don't contact the sporkie and let them know or you will be ban-hammered into next week." While also generally having rules to be civil in the comm [so if someone whose sporked comes into the comm, anyone who tries that shit will get their comment deleted and be banned. Which is really the most the mods can do, realistically.]

The ones who are SJW-based [...and probably on tumblr considering how dead lj and dw are], are a different story and don't really bother with that.

[(Anonymous)]

does anyone have any real life examples of this happening.
Not that I'm doubting anyone, but I've never seen that much backlash on just a fanfic.
I only see that kind of wank with fanart or comments.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen it in the past, reported on metafandom. I remember, in particular, a Supernatural fic set in the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake. The wank went on for weeks, and I've always wondered whether the writer, who was probably little more than a child, survived it. I never read the fic, so I can't tell you what it was about, and I doubt it's still online.

I got my first fic sporking when I was about 12.

[nyxelestia]

It was...not fun. Lots of comments about how I was a terrible writer, I didn't deserve to have my stuff posted online, I should stop writing forever, etc. - I don't remember if any of those comments actively said I should go kill myself, though I do remember getting some serious "you don't deserve to live" vibes from many of the "reviews". That said, none of it was SJW-themed.

Surprisingly, it was probably good for me in many ways, namely in that it confirmed for me that there is no such thing as a "safe space" even/especially on the Internet. That helped me in the long run, because no matter what kind of shit got thrown at me over the years, I was able to let it slide off pretty easily. If I hadn't had that initial experience with sporking - and visiting the sporkers' LJ community to boot, so I got to see a lot of sides of that particular issue - then I would have been hit a lot harder by certain fandom events later in life.

That said, this was back before fandom was supposed to be some kind of safe space. People were still coming to terms with the concept that the Internet could have real life consequences for average people, and cyberbullying wasn't a serious problem yet. Sporking back then was in a vastly different context than it would be/is today.

While I can definitely understand the appeal of doing the sporking and can see how it can be done without too much harm coming about, it's something that is far too easy to get out of hand, which is why I frown on it by default. Far too few people even process that there is a line between light mockery and bullying, letalone know how to not cross it.

[(Anonymous)]

You obviously aren't in the Les Mis fandom, then. There was something that is known as "the Enjonine wars". It was... nasty. Very, very nasty. People getting told to kill themselves over a bloody ship and writing fic for that ship.

[(Anonymous)]

I think sporking is the fic equivalent of driving a red Ferrari -- it's compensating for some personal inadequacy. And I think that sporking and criticising of lapses of social justice awareness both risk driving thirteen year olds (of any age) to suicide.

[(Anonymous)]

I think sporking is the fic equivalent of driving a red Ferrari -- it's compensating for some personal inadequacy.

MTE.

[(Anonymous)]

Except that there's a lot of absolute shite fiction that should in fact be critiqued and even mocked, if it's pretentious enough Oy vey. SO much awful fanfic.

[(Anonymous)]

People still do "sporking"? I thought that died back around 2005.

[solticisekf]

Do I have a short attention span, or is the secret just heavily worded? I'm against criticizing a fic without an express request from an author. Btw, I haven't used a spork, ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously? If you put it online on, say, FF.net or AO3, by definition you are asking for feedback. There's a hell of a lot more crap than good stuff. If I take the time to read it and it annoys me enough, I'm going to critique it and it's not necessarily going to be "update pleeeeeeeeeease."

[herpymcderp]

You don't think social justice and spooning with an erection can mix? Well, I've got news for you...

What is Sporking?

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry to ask, because I don't know the fanfic culture, but what exactly is Sporking? The place I usually go to look up these things, urban dictionary, is just giving me results for spooning with an erection, and I'm pretty sure the secret isn't referring to that.

Re: What is Sporking?

[(Anonymous)]

Basically, it's making fun of bad fanfic. Generally, most the normal sporking comms have rules against contacting the person being sporked/having to be civil in the community [or at least not saying shit like "Kill yourself"] even if the author shows up and is an ass.

Apparently the same isn't true for the SJW ones/tumblrs. Which isn't all that shocking.

[silvereriena]

I didn't even know sporking fics was still a thing.

[(Anonymous)]

What's sporking?

[(Anonymous)]

SPORK!

Also, people who get riled up enough about fanfiction that they go out of their way to torment kids that write them, regardless of reason, have failed Basic Empathy 101. Is it Social Justice, or Sociopathic Justice?

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, I thought they didn't mix because sporking is making fun of bad grammar, childish plots or weird sex, and those aren't super SJ things to laugh about since it's basically always punching down. But then I haven't read a sporking in years, and the closest to mentioning trans people in a spork was "lololol she has a dick, japan amirite?", so maybe things are different now.

[(Anonymous)]

I have no problem with someone sporking just the fic, but when you start insulting the author it's not sporking, it's just bullying.