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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-12 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2718 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2718 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I find your wording odd. There's definitely a homoerotic edge to Ramsay and Theon's scenes, but calling it 'sexual tension' makes it sound somehow mutual. You get that any sex between them would be rape, right? And that Ramsay is a violently insane sexual sadist and there's no remotely in-character way of portraying on-screen Theon/Ramsay sex that wouldn't be harrowing, brutal and disturbing to watch? Although if that's your kink, well, okay. You're definitely watching the right show.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There are lots of fics out there where Reek gets off on it.
philstar22: (Dany dragon)

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-06-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't make it not rape.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
hmm, fanfic writers, the paragon of realistic human psychology writing.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
haha, right? I can't believe people STILL use fic as an actual defense for things.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I can honestly envision the show going there. Like, who cares about the original books if we can make it so much worse and torture these characters just a little bit more?
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-06-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see the show going there, but I think if they did they would make it painful to watch rather than sexy, like pretty much all of their interactions.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-12 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, there is no way this could be sexy. It would be filmed for the sole purpose of making viewers grimace and possibly get sick.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not All Viewers

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
and a big eww to that.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with nearly all of this (it is wonderfully worded, by the way) - except: I do not believe there is a homoerotic edge to these scenes. Ramsay does not want to have sex with Theon or Reek - he is empowered (and maybe turned on in a twisted way) by how much control and power he has over Reek; how he has 'changed' Theon into Reek. It is not about sexual tension - it is about control. Ramsay is sadistic and sociopathic and has daddy issues; and you're right: it would be rape; harrowing, brutal, disturbing rape.

Not to say GoT won't do it. I just wouldn't want to see it.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely to the first part. It's not about Ramsay looking at Theon and going 'I want to fuck this guy so bad and here's how I show my want to fuck!', like fic writers portray it. It's entirely possible (and likely) Ramsay receives sexual pleasure from it, but it's not because of Theon, it's because of what he's doing. I think the uniqueness of Theon is that he's a) a sort-of Prince, b) nobly born, and c) was fairly arrogant and cocky. The kind of person Ramsay really enjoyed bringing down as low as he could.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
The majority of fics I've read for this pairing actually do follow the "Ramsay's aroused by the power he has and Reek being completely loyal and completely his" factor, rather than Ramsay being actually sexually attracted to Reek.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's certainly my kink, but I'm not the OP. And I find the acting kinda cheesy so that pairing doesn't work for me as well as I'd like.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
just checking that you have your rape detection on, man, because if not GTFO!!

this constant reaffirmation crap makes me so tired.