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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-12 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2718 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2718 ⌋

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[personal profile] peablossom 2014-06-12 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I get the feeling that Ramsay has abused Theon in every way he could conceive of.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That bath scene was one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever watched. And yet from that scene alone, I can understand where you're coming from.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I find your wording odd. There's definitely a homoerotic edge to Ramsay and Theon's scenes, but calling it 'sexual tension' makes it sound somehow mutual. You get that any sex between them would be rape, right? And that Ramsay is a violently insane sexual sadist and there's no remotely in-character way of portraying on-screen Theon/Ramsay sex that wouldn't be harrowing, brutal and disturbing to watch? Although if that's your kink, well, okay. You're definitely watching the right show.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
There are lots of fics out there where Reek gets off on it.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2014-06-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Doesn't make it not rape.

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-12 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I can honestly envision the show going there. Like, who cares about the original books if we can make it so much worse and torture these characters just a little bit more?

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with nearly all of this (it is wonderfully worded, by the way) - except: I do not believe there is a homoerotic edge to these scenes. Ramsay does not want to have sex with Theon or Reek - he is empowered (and maybe turned on in a twisted way) by how much control and power he has over Reek; how he has 'changed' Theon into Reek. It is not about sexual tension - it is about control. Ramsay is sadistic and sociopathic and has daddy issues; and you're right: it would be rape; harrowing, brutal, disturbing rape.

Not to say GoT won't do it. I just wouldn't want to see it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's certainly my kink, but I'm not the OP. And I find the acting kinda cheesy so that pairing doesn't work for me as well as I'd like.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
just checking that you have your rape detection on, man, because if not GTFO!!

this constant reaffirmation crap makes me so tired.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-06-12 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
If by sexual tension you mean Stockholm syndrome, then yes.

And honestly there's no way they could show that without being blatantly rape, with Theon basically being a puppet. Which granted, is not a problem for the show, but it might be less hot than you imagine it to be.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying that you're a bad person for thinking this. But if Theon were a woman, you would consider yourself a bad person for thinking this.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
If Theon was a woman, it would all be exactly the same - but fans and critics wouldn't see it the same way. It would be a hell of a lot easier to spot the 'rape'-ness of it, I think.

Not that women are 'protected' and 'rape myths' don't exist - I think it's just easier to see than with men, who, in general, do not report rape; their rape myth, unlike 'women want to be raped', is 'men cannot be raped', which boggles my mind.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Male-on-male rape is titillating for female bloggers.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If Theon were a woman I'd feel exactly the same about it. Maye even better if I liked the actress playing Theon more than the actor playing him now. Although it wouldn't change my issues with the actor playing Ramsay.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, and tumblr would be absolutely going insane about the treatment of female characters, and how disgusting it is and how it's problematic in a real life way. I mean, it'd be justified to some extent, since female victimization is much more rampant than male in the books/series, but a lot of tumblr anger doesn't consider context or nuances except where it suits them.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Some ship RamsayxSansa and RamsayxJeyne though. Who really gives a shit, they're fictional pairings and people have non-con kinks. None of this affects anything in the grand scheme of things.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
...nope.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly hope they include a scene with Ramsay raping Theon. Seriously, they can show us Ramsay torturing him, with all their sadistic imaginations, but we can't get a single rape scene?

At least they included an almost rape scene of Theon last season...

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
He had him raped by those prostitutes right before he chopped his dick off, remember? That was when folks were being really concerned about the prostitutes and whether it was okay to use them like that.
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[personal profile] silvereriena 2014-06-13 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not even sure if they're getting screentime in the finale this weekend.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I fucking hope not. I'm sick to death of them.

And I like Theon.
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[personal profile] thistlechaser 2014-06-13 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww. That's the biggest thing I hope to see more of before the season ends.

Heck, I'd watch a whole show of nothing other than the two of them.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-13 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
Alfie and Iwan really do have great chemistry and I get the impression they're purposely trying to up the homoerotic element, so I feel you, OP. Might make up for what the show did to Renly and Lora's.
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[personal profile] thistlechaser 2014-06-13 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
GREAT choice of images, OP. I've been sitting here grinning at it for way too long.