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I think our glorification of physical ability over that of academic or artistic ability is killing society

yes? I definitely see where you're coming from, but I don't see how that means everyone ever is supposed to hate sports now and liking sports is suddenly a bad thing. Hell, there are so many people (myself included) who need to do more physical activity for the sake of health. Human bodies are meant to be active.

and yeah, I DO judge people who like sports more than art for that reason.

That is a really, really extreme reaction, and yeah I know you're ok with being extreme but I would go so far as to say it's a harmful reaction. Peoples' personal preferences don't deserve to be judged. There's a difference between finding sports more entertaining than art or academics, and refusing to support the latter or insisting on pouring finances into the former. The second group of people is merely a subset of the first.

The thing is, I firmly believe that the aggrandization of sports is harmful, so yes, I will judge people who support and perpetuate it.

How so?
I can see harm in judging someone based on their interest (it inherently leads to conflict and resentment and a "Them and Us" mentality that alienates and justifies mistreatment)

Can you, in such clear terms, explain how people liking sports more than any other form of mindless entertainment, leads to harm?

And Is it all forms of physical prowess? What about people who like the ballet? It's an artform, but requires atheletes displaying a physical prowess that most people can't match, so where does that fit in, and why is that different? (I'm presuming you're going to take the viewpoint that ballet is different, please excuse me if I'm wrong.)

If sports were little more than backyard games, or at most semi-organized regional games, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

But the aggrandization of sports -- ballooning children's play into a massive industry that's worth billions if not trillions of dollars, leading to a colossal disparity in sports spending vs other forms of spending -- entertainment, research, education, infrastructure, whatever -- is inherently harmful, can we not agree on that? It's outsized, it's corrupt, and people who willingly participate in this and spend money to keep the sports machine running so it can mow over other aspects of our society are perpetuating that harm.

I don't view ballet as a sport. The primary difference is that it's putting on a show and showing an individual's prowess; the competitive aspect is strictly based on the complexity of the dancing, whereas with professional sports the competitive aspect is all-encompassing (two sports teams sportsing really hard to get the sports ball into the sports hole or whatever) and individual skill is reduced to numbers and statistics.

calling all sports "children's play" is rather degrading to adults who like sports...maybe "degrading" isn't the best word, but it definitely seems you're intending to be derisive here.

Edited 2014-06-13 02:00 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the intent. Sports are, and should remain, something kids play in their backyard. It teaches them teamwork and is good exercise. It's not something grown men (and women) should be doing into their 20s and 30s.

Comics / Video games / cartoons are, and should remain, something kids Read / play / watch. It's not something grown men (and women) should be doing into their 20s and 30s.

This is condescending and silly. So adults aren't allowed to enjoy a nice game once in a while? Are all adults obligated to do solitary, boring* exercise?

*I know some people really enjoy running, swimming, etc. but I think many people have way more fun playing group games for exercise, which I suspect is a large part of the reason adults like to do it

but aggrandization of sports =/= simply enjoying sports

what you said was that you judged people who personally preferred sports over art

at least, that is what it seemed you were trying to say

enjoying sports = buying into the industry = aggrandization of sports.

You do realize you can enjoy sports without ever paying a dime into the industry, right? Except, I guess, whatever it costs to buy basic supplies.

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