[ SECRET POST #2721 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2721 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

No, but the hero being gay does make it extremely creepy for straight girls to perv out on it. Here is a person from a group you have systematic power over--here's them being beat up! Sexy!

[(Anonymous)]

The character is rarely a real gay character though, he's a character that is nominally straight in canon who is turned gay in fic. This is a perfectly okay thing to do IMO, because slash fanfiction is generally focused on interpreting two characters' love as romantic love, it's not focused on a character's individual personal experience of being a gay man. The focus is on the emotion, not the identity. (Hence why so much slash has the main character being bisexual but not really bisexually active, rather than gay and in the closet and having sex with women to hide it. The latter is often seen as too big a leap, except in really long, thoughtfully-written fanfics.)

But the fact usually stands that in canon, the character has never been subjected to homophobia and discrimination aimed at him for being gay in canon, nor has ever been shown suffering from hiding his homosexuality in canon, which is just not the same as a canonically gay character being abused. A character who is never marginalized for his homosexuality in canon is not, technically, a member of a group women have systematic power over.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, wouldn't this be true for the women in fiction being beaten up by anyone? A character who is never marginalized for being female in canon is not, technically, a member of a group men have systematic power over.


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[(Anonymous)]

That's not really the same thing. A woman who is female in canon is still female in fanfic. A person who is straight as far as author's intent is concerned in canon, but gay in a fanfic, is quite different. The character was originally crafted to be straight, and therefore was crafted without the marginalization that affects the crafting of gay characters.

A better analogy would be a character who appears to be male or female in canon, but is interpreted as being actually trans in a fanfic. Such a character can suffer cissexism-based marginalization within the fanfic's internal universe, but not as a canonical character when discussing the canon.

[esteefee]

You are oversimplifying the myriad ways women identify with the (purely fictional) characters you are talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

Because bisexual women don't exist?

Becuase gay men don't have systematic power over straight women?

[(Anonymous)]

If you believe that gay men have systematic power over straight women, you are part of the problem.

Straight women are the least oppressed class there is (saying this as woman, btw way.) We have a fuck load of perks no one else has.

[(Anonymous)]

And women are most at risk for being raped.

[(Anonymous)]

Let me guess, you're white and middle-class?

[(Anonymous)]

Screw the middle classes! I will never accept them!

[(Anonymous)]

...my father's other family was middle class...