[ SECRET POST #2722 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2722 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

15. http://i.imgur.com/h9DkWGL.png

[(Anonymous)]

That's possible. I didn't know people like that in school either, but I've met them in the workplace.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno. I do know some people who technically fit the Alpha Bitch mold, but they were always careful to hide their bitch-ness very, very well; whereas fictional Alpha Bitches flaunt their bitch-ness all over yet still get fawned over, which makes no sense.

[dethtoll]

The gender inverse applies. The most popular kid in my school was this massive ego who thought he was so fucking great, and because my school valued sports over education he got all the accolades and was allowed to do whatever he wanted to me -- up to and including mocking me in front of the whole school in front of a visitor. Did the teachers do anything? NOPE!

So I mooned him. I got in trouble, of course. But when my mom found out exactly WHY I'd just mooned him in front of the whole school she was about ready to start tearing off faculty heads.

The best part is I had to write a letter of apology to the visitor because the dipshit thought I was mooning him. He wasn't even in the path of the blast, what the fuck? Whatever. Fucks given: 0. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

[diet_poison]

That last part is the most infuriating. How conceited do you have to be to witness a public mocking and then assume the retaliation was aimed at you and not at the mocker?

[dethtoll]

Playwrights, man. Every one I've ever met has been like that.

[iceyred]

You tell wonderful stories.

[(Anonymous)]

Bwhahahah! I wish I had the courage to do that to some of the bullies in middle school. Would have likely gotten expelled (or killed by some of the bullies), but it might have prevented me from trying to commit suicide once or twice during 8th grade.

[diet_poison]

"people usually get popular by being likable"

lolol

OP

[(Anonymous)]

It says "got." Because I was talking about my own experience, the schools I went to and people I knew there.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Then you must have gone to a pretty awesome school, OP.

A lot depends on the area and the sort of school you went to. Some schools have a culture of bullying where the most popular kid is the one who's the nastiest, meanest motherfucker on the playground.

On the other hand, I know a girl who was lucky enough to do an IB, and went to a school with a bunch of other really smart kids, and there was almost no bullying at all, because everyone had stuff in common and got along.

Re: OP

[diet_poison]

Ok, but the tone of the secret sort of made it sound like that was supposed to be a universal experience.

In reality, "likableness" (except inasmuch as it involves charisma) isn't generally that big of a factor for popularity among teens. Talent, ambition, money, and attractiveness were also big drives, and I think this is pretty common.

(I found people who weren't "popular" to be generally much more likable, which is why it didn't take me that long in middle and high school to abandon my desires to be part of the in-crowd and form a happy niche among other geeky people.)

[(Anonymous)]

It annoys me too. It also annoys me that the "alpha bitch" trope character is ALWAYS a girly girl, and the main protagonist/rival (if they're a girl.) is ALWAYS a huge tomboy.
It just screams, "femininity makes you shallow and evil!!" and ugh it rubs me the wrong way.
I'd love to see it where the roles were actually reversed.

[(Anonymous)]

Why can't the bitch be the one who drinks tea and reads books and is "not like other girls"

[(Anonymous)]

Femmephobia is why: http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/femmephobia-girls-are-gross-writ-large/

[(Anonymous)]

Someday I'm going to write a fanfic based on "You Belong With Me" where the tomboyish narrator is actually a bullying yandere and the feminine girlfriend is actually super sweet, just for that reason.

[(Anonymous)]

The narrator as a bullying yandere is practically canon for the song already.

[dragonimp]

Normally that kind of thing bothers me, too, but ... that's kinda how it was at my school. Fiction exaggerates it, of course, and it'd be nice to see something other than the same stereotype, but still.

[diet_poison]

I think actually the reason it happens is because, in reality, super-feminine girls are more likely to be popular. Shallow, but true.

There are also very overtly feminine girls who aren't popular, at least ime (it helps that I went to a large school). But if you weren't very overtly feminine and you were female, good luck trying to climb that social ladder.

The same thing is true for the guys - if you've not super masculine, you're unlikely to be popular.

[dragonimp]

Yeah, I think that's it. Kids who didn't fit the ideal mold had a much harder time. It's a stereotype that exists for a reason.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd say this character type happens in real life but usually the girl isn't actually "popular", just worshipped by a few other girls and feared or even hated rather than loved by the rest of the student body. That's the case in quite a few fictional examples too, but not most of them.

Also I see this in elementary school and middle school way more than high school...

sa

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, and if the girl /is/ actually popular, it's usually because she's super manipulative.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, it exists. A whole gaggle of cackling bitches once told me to stop sitting near their table once. One of them then asked if I had a boyfriend, and another laughed and said of course I didn't, without me even answering. In HS another gang of bitches decided they were going to spend my entire geometry class harassing me. And the teacher sent ME downstairs so "I wouldn't be bullied/stop disrupting the class' AND THE ONLY THING I WAS DOING WAS FUCKING TAKING NOTES. Not talking, nothing. I'd say people like this definitely do exist. Teenagers tend to lack empathy and whatnot.

[diet_poison]

Teachers like that are rage-inducing omg.

[(Anonymous)]

How lucky for you, that the popular people in your school happened to be nice and not manipulative as all hell. (And yes, this included the popular boys.)