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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-16 07:28 pm

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This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
http://jezebel.com/worlds-worst-911-dispatcher-tells-rape-victim-to-quit-c-1590496193

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
agreed, 911 dispatchers do not need information from people reporting crimes

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She was a bit of a smartass and she could have been nicer but...she is telling the truth. Police can't help you without an address. And a vague descrpition won't help either. And of course she is going to tell her to quit crying. Do you have ANY idea how hard it is to get info from someone who is crying? I had a kid call in during a domestic. I had to calm her down and get her to stop crying so that I could get an address. Otherwise, I can't do anything.

And no clue how this is supposed to be rape culture

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Ding ding ding.

Fucking jezebel, I should have known better than to click.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Because it's much more important to be nice to a rape victim than to GET THE ADDRESS AND FIND HER TO MAKE SURE SHE'S ALL RIGHT.

What the fuck dude.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I worked in dispatch for a year. If we don't have an address, we can't do ANYTHING. And if we can get a good description of the assailant we can...you know tell the officers who are patrolling. Or, maybe even an officer who is heading towards the victims area. You know, an officer who might see the assailant escaping.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Right? God forbid you hurt someone's feelings in an attempt to help them the only way you can.
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Re: This is rape culture

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-06-17 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, but there is a way you can say that without being rude and dismissive to someone who is clearly traumatized. You certainly aren't going to make the situation better or make her more likely able to give you the address by being an ass.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
The dispatcher could have done it better, yes, but the article is not making that distinction. The article is putting them on blast for doing their job.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
True, but these people probably gets calls like this several times a day. It's hard to be sensitive and thoughtful every single time. It's like wanting ER nurses to be horrified and distraught every time a horribly injured person comes in. Nope. Sorry.
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Re: This is rape culture

[personal profile] republicanism 2014-06-17 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, i was thinking the same thing. it's easy to fault the dispatcher for being so cold, but shit, i don't know how you could survive a job like this without emotionally distancing yourself from the situation.
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Re: This is rape culture

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-06-17 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC at least historically 'verbal slaps' were taught because it gets people to actually listen to what you're saying and jolts them into focus in a way that being completely accommodating doesn't.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I almost some of you get to be in the position to be told 'stop crying' after something horrifying has happened to you. The fact that most of you have more sympathy for the dispatcher and not the RAPE VICTIM wtf?!

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Try it. Try it you fucking child. Try being anyone in an emergency response field. YOU WOULD BE CURLED UP IN A BALL TRYING NOT TO KILL YOURSELF IF YOU RESPONDED THE WAY THAT YOU THINK PEOPLE IN THOSE FIELDS SHOULD RESPOND.

You want them to help you, and you want them to feel for you, but you don't want them to have to deal with it. You think that they shouldn't even be dealing with it because GOSH THEY DIDN'T EXPERIENCE IT AND WOW YOU DON'T DESERVE SYMPATHY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T GET RAPED/SHOT/MURDERED/ETC. But fuck you. Fuck your shit, because although yes, it is absolutely awful to get raped, and it is absolutely awful to be the victim of any terrible crime, it is also fucking awful to be in a position where you have to deal with that day in and day out. If dispatchers don't shut themselves down, then they can't function well enough to send you the help that you need. Deal with that.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
The dispatcher is trying to do their job and HELP the rape victim. The dispatcher cannot help the rape victim unless they can get necessary information (like the address) out of them. If the victim is crying hysterically, the dispatcher can't do anything for them. The longer it takes to get that information, the longer it takes to get police and EMS there.

And if there's an attacker running around out there with a gun, they need a good description so they can send an alert to the police as soon as possible. You know, so they can catch him and keep him from hurting anyone else? (Which, incidentally, they did, and the guy is now being prosecuted.)

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
I love that this is a not-even-veiled "I hope you get raped". Fuck you and fuck everything about you, not even kidding. I'd love to see how fast your bleeding heart would dry up if you had to spend even one day as someone that has to deal with emergencies like this for a living.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-16 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Can someone sum this up for me? I don't give click traffic to sites like these.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
But you kind of do by asking someone to click through and write about it for you. So get off your stupid high horse and read the article yourself.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Except some people have checked, as evidenced by the replies that came previously, and could fill them in.

Honestly, what a brain dead comment you made.

Re: This is rape culture

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Rape victim calls 911 while extremely upset, dispatcher has trouble getting information from distraught caller and gets frustrated and explains very clearly that without information the police can't do anything. Cue clickbaity outrage porn.
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Re: This is rape culture

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-06-17 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone who is outraged by this should have to work a forty hour week at a dispatch center once and see how they handle things by their last day. I think doing so would open their eyes to how much chaos you have to handle with a cool and detached head. You can't get attached. You can't emotional. Because once you are off that call, you have to be on another one and that one may be worse. And you will need nerves of steel to handle it. Not have your head still on the last call.