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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-16 07:28 pm

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[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'm starting to feel like call out blogs (yes whole blogs dedicated to "calling out") are just someone's personal Burn Book with a different name slapped on it.

Also ...and I also feel this about bad criticism for online fics..I kinda feel like people cling to the idea of "tough love" or a hostile reaction because it's what they WANT to do, even if it's not the most productive response. They convince themselves it's the 'proper' or 'justified' reply. But deep down it's because they just WANT an excuse to rip someone a new one.

(Plus the whole "it's not my job to educate you" is annoying to me and is part of what makes SJWs the most useless activists. Yes I understand how repeating an explanation many times can be exhausting, but when someone just nicely asks to understand something and you yell at them and tell them to google it, or you make fun of them, you're making a HORRIBLE impression. No it's not "OH so we have to kiss your ass to be taken seriously? OPRRESHUN!11" it's the fact that people aren't going to to what you want and believe what you want when you're an asshole to them. It's human nature. )

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's just adolescent bullying with a cheap veneer of moral superiority slapped on top.

Which is bad, because they're commandeering the language and concepts of ACTUALLY IMPORTANT social issues to do it. Talk about poisoning the well.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah seriously. It really sucks.

Also am I the only one who can't take it seriously when they nickname people who oppose their ideas as "anything"-scum? Seriously it's just so juvenile.

(and the people who are calling themselves and demanding to be called "tucute" seriously?) Sometimes I wonder if some of these people are literally twelve.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-06-17 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
This.

SJWs yell a lot, but they don't help anyone or any cause. They just act like assholes for the sake of acting like assholes.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-06-17 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Being blacklisted by calloutstuck was a point of pride for me.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Heh

(I find it kinda cringey when people on tumblr have pages of "people I blacklist and you should to" , it just reminds me of people on deviantart who tell others to block people who criticized their fancharacter.

Like it's one thing if they're making a list of people who bully and dox to beware of....but just "this person disagrees with me- BLOCK THEM"

Also why tell people who you blacklist- unless again they're actually dangerous dangerous bullying/harassing doxxers or something
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-06-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure I was laughing about this at the time.


Edited 2014-06-17 03:50 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend to find new blogs to follow when going through the most assholish people's "people I blacklist and you should to" lists XD

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I can see part of it because there's three types of asking questions.
1. I honestly wish to know the answer.

2. I am trolling and want to waste your time, like the kid in school who tried to keep the teacher going over the syllabus the entire class period to avoid any actual work being assigned.

3. I truly feel you're wrong and if I keep rephrasing and questioning you you'll suddenly realize your argument is bullshit and see the light.

And it's hard to tell sometimes which is which. So when you get "But have you ever actually really sat down and thought, hey, lots of vaccines, lots of autism, it would be kinda stupid if they weren't related, right?" For the ten thousandth time you start wondering if it's 2 or 3 and spending any time tying out an answer is just feeding the trolls.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh.. True.

I apologize. I guess I was just thinking answers asked in good faith I suppose. I've seen totally innocent questions about someone's cause responded to with indignation.

Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I've just seen some really nasty people under the label of social justice.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's fine! I think unless you actually encounter 2 and 3 a lot you tend to assume most are in good faith.

Had a troll doing that on a forum I was on. On a topic about the girl scouts he kept coming in with "But really, when you look at it closely, isn't having girl scouts be just for girls sort of anti-feminist? Since it's about equality and all. And doesn't that just promote a victim mentality?" And people were over and over explaining carefully why he was wrong and he's just coming back with "Well, I'm sure you think that way, but have you ever really thought..." Until I finally flat out asked if he was doing #3 and he admitted he was, because he was so smart he realized telling people stuff didn't work so he needed us to really think it through and come to our own conclusion that he was right.

People pretty much ignored him after that.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh okay.

Yeah I see what you mean.

Sounds like a troll or just a garden variety ass.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
He really was. The sad thing was though that so many people were so earnestly trying to educate him and spending so much time on it rather than, you know, actually discussing what the topic was about.

But I know on the other side of the coin it does create a hostile environment when every single question is met with "EDUCATE YOURSELF WHITECISMALESCUM" and there are plenty of nutso SJW to the point it can be hard to tell the trolls pretending to be SJW from actual SJW.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh

*nods*

Extremes on either side are harmful
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-06-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
As far as the 1/2/3 list goes? If you're the kind of person who has developed a bit of a sixth sense for when someone's being serious as opposed to just being a trolly little shitbag, doing "101" isn't actually all that bad. I personally kind of like being the kind of person who will patiently write out analogies for the "privilege" concept and so on.

But I get that some people have just hit their limit and would rather not.