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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-16 07:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #2722 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2722 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I can see part of it because there's three types of asking questions.
1. I honestly wish to know the answer.

2. I am trolling and want to waste your time, like the kid in school who tried to keep the teacher going over the syllabus the entire class period to avoid any actual work being assigned.

3. I truly feel you're wrong and if I keep rephrasing and questioning you you'll suddenly realize your argument is bullshit and see the light.

And it's hard to tell sometimes which is which. So when you get "But have you ever actually really sat down and thought, hey, lots of vaccines, lots of autism, it would be kinda stupid if they weren't related, right?" For the ten thousandth time you start wondering if it's 2 or 3 and spending any time tying out an answer is just feeding the trolls.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh.. True.

I apologize. I guess I was just thinking answers asked in good faith I suppose. I've seen totally innocent questions about someone's cause responded to with indignation.

Sorry if I sound like a jerk, I've just seen some really nasty people under the label of social justice.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
It's fine! I think unless you actually encounter 2 and 3 a lot you tend to assume most are in good faith.

Had a troll doing that on a forum I was on. On a topic about the girl scouts he kept coming in with "But really, when you look at it closely, isn't having girl scouts be just for girls sort of anti-feminist? Since it's about equality and all. And doesn't that just promote a victim mentality?" And people were over and over explaining carefully why he was wrong and he's just coming back with "Well, I'm sure you think that way, but have you ever really thought..." Until I finally flat out asked if he was doing #3 and he admitted he was, because he was so smart he realized telling people stuff didn't work so he needed us to really think it through and come to our own conclusion that he was right.

People pretty much ignored him after that.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh okay.

Yeah I see what you mean.

Sounds like a troll or just a garden variety ass.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-17 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
He really was. The sad thing was though that so many people were so earnestly trying to educate him and spending so much time on it rather than, you know, actually discussing what the topic was about.

But I know on the other side of the coin it does create a hostile environment when every single question is met with "EDUCATE YOURSELF WHITECISMALESCUM" and there are plenty of nutso SJW to the point it can be hard to tell the trolls pretending to be SJW from actual SJW.

[personal profile] jaybie_jarrett 2014-06-17 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ahh

*nods*

Extremes on either side are harmful
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2014-06-17 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
As far as the 1/2/3 list goes? If you're the kind of person who has developed a bit of a sixth sense for when someone's being serious as opposed to just being a trolly little shitbag, doing "101" isn't actually all that bad. I personally kind of like being the kind of person who will patiently write out analogies for the "privilege" concept and so on.

But I get that some people have just hit their limit and would rather not.