[ SECRET POST #2723 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2723 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[True Blood]


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03.
[Hawaii Five-0]


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04.
[MTV faking it]


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05.
[Natsume Yuujinchou]


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06.
[Persona Arena Ultimax]


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07.
[Linda Blair, Alicia Silverstone, Natalie Portman, Chris Evans, Albert Einstein, Paul and Linda McCartney]


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08.
[Sarah Silverman]


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09.
[Pocahontas]


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10.
[Kick Ass 2]


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11.
[I Made America]


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12.
[A League of Their Own]


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13. [posted twice]


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14.
[Loki: Agent of Asgard]


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15.
[Some of Us / Free! Iwatobi Swim Club]


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16.
[Portal]










Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 052 secrets from Secret Submission Post #389.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm bisexual and 'straight' same-sex fumblings are still a huge kink for me.

Often I don't think it's so much pretending there are no bisexuals, as knowing what sexy shenanigans are going to lure viewers in. Girl on girl, especially when it's 'straight' and thus non-threatening, is going to attract a certain demographic.

I haven't seen this show so I couldn't say what's going on here though.

[toku_mei]

I wouldn't say it's a kink per se, but I'm gay and I've always been a huge romantic for the concept of people who identify as straight finding that one exception. Or, I guess this is a little more kinky, but being in same-gendered environments where they become sexual with their gender, even if their "normal" orientation is still straight.

I don't know what's going on in this show, either. If I say it looks trashy, am I in the ballpark, or..?

Anyway, yeah. Bisexuality is a thing, but I figure if you are 99% into the opposite gender but are attracted to someone of the same gender on very rare occasions, you're still fine calling yourself straight.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I've always been a huge romantic for the concept of people who identify as straight finding that one exception.

Me too. But apparently, that's a huge yaoi trope, and I should feel bad about liking it?

There is such a thing as situational homosexuality, such as in prisons or same sex boarding schools. RL does throw up a lot of examples where usually straight people go over to the other side, at least part way for a while, so I'm going to keep on finding the idea plausible, and enjoying it in my shippy fic.

I also like it where gay people fall in love with someome of the opposite sex, although that doesn't have the same resonance. Then they're going with the grain of society.

I agree, this show does look trashy. Exactly the type to try to titivate bisexuality.

[ibbity]

"Or, I guess this is a little more kinky, but being in same-gendered environments where they become sexual with their gender, even if their "normal" orientation is still straight."

This is SO one of my favorite "kinks"/story elements. I don't watch porn for various personal reasons, but I lovelovelove stuff like boarding school love stories and the like. Always have. Especially if it's the sort of straitlaced "proper" we-must-hide-this kind of semi-repressed environment.

[fingalsanteater]

The blonde girl is probably bisexual, and the brunette is her (probably) straight BFF. It's actually a lot better than the concept would have you believe. The friends are thought to be a couple and are forcibly "outed." Because people think they are gay, they become popular, which is what they want, so they decide to fake being a couple for the lulz and the popularity. However, the blond begins to question her sexuality after all and discovers she's in love with her friend.

[sarillia]

Wait, in whatever universe this show is set in, being gay makes you popular in high school?

[(Anonymous)]

Gay=popular these days? We've stepped into the future.

Also, ugh to the forcible outing. Why am I imagining that the producers egged that along a little to add to the drama?

[insanenoodlyguy]

it wasn't "egged" that was like, the origin. That's how the show starts. "Oh hell we just got outed but we aren't gay" "Wait hold on friend, people are responding positively lets go with this" "Okay... (Oh shit I actually liked that kiss we just did for the crowd shit shit)"



That's the very abridged episode 1 right there.

[fingalsanteater]

It's not a reality show...

[quantumreality]

I heard in some HSes in California in the 90s it was an "in thing" to be bi. IDK why, but that era is now correlated with a general loosening of social attitudes towards LBGTQ people in some quarters. (The 2000s are a different matter, as an avowedly socially conservative President and Congress took office in the USA)

[fingalsanteater]

Well, they specifically set it in a liberal city in a conservative state in which I could see how "coming out" (in quotes because they were forcibly outed) could make one popular in the fictional high school they attend. That part actually seems the most believable to me. They live in a cartoonish world, really, that exaggerates and twists many things.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the part of it that pisses me off more than anything. My cousin was outed at her school by a "friend" of hers and she was very literally attacked for it. The bullying was so severe that her parents had to pull her out of school.

Gay is popular my fucking ass. Get back to me when frightened, bullied gay kids aren't committing suicide and we'll talk, MTV.

[caecilia]

A universe that is showing us an ideal. Think about how many queer storylines you've seen where the kid has to deal with internalized homophobia, bullying, self-loathing, and probably dies in the end. I for one have been tired of those plotlines for a long time, and just want to see some queer people being people, having their relationships treated as normal. And Faking It has been doing that. So it's not entirely realistic in that way but in some ways it is.

Honestly this is the first show I've seen that humanizes the experience of being a questioning teen and I think there are a lot of positive messages to get out of it like:
- Straight guys don't have to feel uncomfortable being affectionate with gay guys.
- It's actually really hurtful when you pretend to be gay.
- You can be gay and stay true to your religious beliefs.
- Probably a multitude of others I'm not thinking of right now.

To the anon above: yes, there is drama. Drama is necessary to tell a good story.

[sarillia]

I don't see why it can't just be something that people accept rather than something that makes them popular. I understand wanting to see an ideal sometimes as an antidote to reality, but this is not ideal to me.

The other stuff sounds pretty cool to me though.

[caecilia]

Okay I see where you're coming from but honestly when you see it, it's a lot better than it sounds by description. The popularity thing is the set up for the first episode where Shane, the "Most Popular Guy In School" who happens to be gay, decides to make them "feel more secure" by electing them Homecoming queens, and that's really what makes them popular. Everyone is all obsesses with the cute new couple and there's probably a lot of "Let's show everyone how NOT homophobic we are".

Also, like I said, the "pretending to be gay" thing is a thing.

Better examples than I can give:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ql0mDwV74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCry8TvCsng

We are fetishized by straight people. I've seen it in popular media and IRL. And I think by showing the extreme of that, they're showing us why it's wrong. If Karma and Amy pretended to be gay and it was no big deal, there would be no conflict, and Karma wouldn't learn anything. And people in the audience wouldn't learn anything.

tl;dr and probably sounded self-contradictory but maybe watch the show before judging?

[sarillia]

Oh okay. That makes a lot more sense to me than the way it sounded at first.

[caecilia]

Also, I forgot about this, there's one point where we meet a girl from a different high school that doesn't have that attitude.

I'll shut up about it now.

[(Anonymous)]

It's supposed to be a hyperliberal school where all the stereotypically-outcast cliques are the popular ones and all the stereotypically-popular cliques are the outcast ones, if I remember right. Outsider kids are on top and jocks and cheerleaders on bottom of the social ladder.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't seen the show, but I can vouch for the fact that schools like the above comments are describing do in fact exist; I went to one.