[ SECRET POST #2728 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2728 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting. I'm a fan of both, and I AM pretty confused by the hate they get, but I think the hate for Kurtofsky confuses me more. Like, for Sansa and Sandor, she's a child; he's an adult who has killed innocent children and is an alcoholic. I can see why the idea of shipping the two would make people uncomfortable and why people would find that "never okay" even given a good redemption/maturity arc for Sandor. But for Kurtofsky, Karofsky bullied Kurt, but he had sympathetic reasons for doing so -- he clearly had issues that he was working through.

I guess they do both share the quality that I really root for Sandor/Karofsky and want them to become the better people that they want to be, and that's why I like their characters and their relationships. It does get very frustrating when people tear down them and their ability to be in a relationship based on the lowest things they've done.

[miku_hatsune]

Karofsky had sympathetic reasons for physically and sexually harassing Kurt...?

It's taken me a very long time to come to terms with my sexuality because I was raised in a household where my parents think gay folks are wrong/sick, my mother outright told me she wouldn't approve of me marrying anyone but a man once when I was a kid. I never took it out on any of the out kids I knew in HS.

[(Anonymous)]

do you want a cookie?

[miku_hatsune]

Preferably a shortbread one, haven't had one of those in a really long time ;)

No but in seriousness, Karofsky bullying Kurt and threatening to kill him is not ~sympathetic. For any reason.

[(Anonymous)]

(DA) This is exactly why Kurtofsky rubs me the wrong way. Boo hoo, does Karofsky want a cookie for his sad life that forced him to threaten a boy who had done nothing but be gay?

[(Anonymous)]

you're a girl, karofsky's a guy, there's a whole different slew of issues.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT. Yes, as in his bullying actions were motivated by insecurity and the need to assert his manliness and were part of him coming to terms with his sexuality. That doesn't mean his bullying was sympathetic, just that as a character, the things that drive him to bully others are sympathetic.

I'm not saying, "Oh well, it's okay to bully people; you're coming to terms with your sexuality, after all!" Bullying is not okay and should be responded to with zero tolerance. However, I'm saying that bullies are not evil people who are incapable of being forgiven and learning from their behavior. Most people who do bad things have a kernel of sympatheticness and humanity to them, even if that humanity manifests itself as a serious flaw. That's basically true for every character in Glee, so it seems weird to me that certain characters are never forgiven ever when the whole cast at one point has done something truly reprehensible.