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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-22 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2728 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. Religious reasons seem like the silliest reasons for not eating meat. People think there's a deity out there who is going to punish them if they don't eat the right foods or avoid the wrong ones? Okaaaaay...

Not eating meat for moral or ethical reasons makes a little more sense, but it's still kind of confusing. If you want more humane treatment of animals who are raised for food, you're not going to accomplish anything with a boycott unless you get lots and lots of people to do the same... which is unlikely. On the other hand, if you wanted companies who raise meat to do so in a humane fashion (free range, no hormones, no cruelty) the smart thing to do is to support the companies who do this by buying their products. This is how capitalism and consumerism works. Japanese car companies didn't hit the American automakers by telling people not to buy big gas guzzling cars, they did it by making smaller, reliable, fuel efficient, inexpensive cars.
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[personal profile] ryttu3k 2014-06-23 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to chip in about the trying to get companies to change - I personally stopped consuming animal products because I didn't want to contribute to that industry myself, but I do agree that it doesn't work on a large scale unless others do it. That's partially why veg*ns can get a reputation for being pushy - I try to be an activist as much as I can, to let people know what alternatives are out there (and if they must continue to consume animal products, then to guide them towards slightly more ethical versions.

It's a very fine balance between informing people and bullying them, though, and a lot of veg*ns go overboard. It's coming from a good place - wanting to reduce animal cruelty and exploitation - it's just being handled poorly.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you adding a * to vegan?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
da

veg*n means vegetarian or vegan. The * can be an "a" or an "etaria", it's shorthand for signifying both.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think your math is flawed. Whether or not consumers go to a competitor, if they boycott a particular company or product, there's still money loss in mind. Sure, that "won't do much" unless a lot of people do it. But with that mindset, no one would be an activist.

And not eating meat does actually significantly reduce your carbon footprint. So there's that.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-06-23 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think you will find that a lot of religious reasons are the same as non-religious. It's simply a POV that, on top of being good ideas, doing things for health, kindness and environmental reasons have the bonus of having God's approval as well.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-24 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
fyi, free range is bullshit. they're still close-packed and trample each other to death. It's not humane at all.

Low doses of growth hormones aren't necessarily bad. For chickens they're a problem because they will have problems walking with the added weight, but cows and pigs are sturdier. Anyway, you need to do the research on this stuff if you're going to make these statements.

Eating humane meat from small farmers is a nice idea, but in reality it's fucking expensive and always will be. Who the hell can afford a 30 dollar burger. The real cost of that stuff is stupidly high.